tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-120114182024-03-14T12:27:45.386+04:00The twelfth manDriving it straight down...RajaBhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12468551373665867713noreply@blogger.comBlogger233125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12011418.post-41033573007794618142016-09-07T12:18:00.000+04:002016-09-07T12:18:30.559+04:00Continuing with Amazon India's service masterclass...<div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on">
And guess what ?<br />
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Amazon India asked me for a review, yes review of a book I had ordered but was never delivered by them.<br />
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And they claim that it was delivered and refuse to divulge more information about the delivery.<br />
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I had documented their fantastic customer service <a href="http://rajabaradwaj.blogspot.ae/2016/08/the-amazon-india-customer-service.html" target="_blank">here</a> earlier.<br />
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This was the review I sent them which predictably they refused to put it online :)<br />
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</div>RajaBhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12468551373665867713noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12011418.post-24279671217644274552016-08-21T14:58:00.003+04:002016-08-21T14:58:52.945+04:00The Amazon (India) customer service masterclass !!<div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on">
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First, let me thank all the people who supported me on
this issue in the last 3-4 weeks. Thank you so much !!<o:p></o:p></div>
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Second, there are few people, two to be precise, who came
back asking me if I think I have been a bit harsh on Amazon <span style="font-family: inherit;">India</span>, using words. I did
clarify that I was overcome with emotions, I did start of as anyone
would. asking them where my order was and then I was lead to the garden path by
their customer care executives where I lost it and did say a few words. </div>
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For the
interest of someone (new) reading this, what are those words ? <b><u>Cheated</u></b>, <b><u>Forged</u></b>,
<b><u>Fraud</u></b>. As days went by without any action being taken or anything being
communicated to me, I did use a liberal sprinkling of these 3 words in my
communications to them and on the social media.<o:p></o:p></div>
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Third, one of those two people mentioned above did think
that I shouldn’t have used those words. He tells me that may be they have not
responded to your query because you used words !! </div>
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Now, in this post I am
going to spell out what actually happened with some of the evidence I have in my
hand and I will let you, the reader to make your own opinion about what is
right and what is not & also who is and who is not. </div>
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That notwithstanding,
let me start with an apology nevertheless…<o:p></o:p></div>
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AMAZON INDIA, I AM SORRY FOR THOSE WORDS… I APOLOGIZE AND I
TAKE THOSE WORDS UNCONDITIONALLY !!<o:p></o:p></div>
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Now some of you might wonder, some might even abuse me in
your minds, some might think I’ve lost my marbles by apologizing to someone who
is deemed to have committed a mistake. It’s okay, like they say, “It takes a
heart to apologize”. I don’t think I will lose anything doing that.<o:p></o:p></div>
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Now to the core issue.<o:p></o:p></div>
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What happened ? Why did I blow my top ?<o:p></o:p></div>
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On July 03, 2016 I ordered a book with Amazon India (AI).
The AI order screen confirmed that the book was shipped to the address I had
provided on July 18, 2016.<o:p></o:p></div>
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Late July 28, 2016, when I was checked for the status of
this book I found that the AI website had a new status. That the book was
delivered on that day, it also said that the book was handed directly to my
wife and that she signed for the delivery. But no one from my family had received the book, it was not delivered as the status on AI said...<o:p></o:p></div>
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I subsequently called the AI customer call center and asked
them when the book was delivered and to whom. The person who spoke to me very
clearly said that the book was damaged in transit and therefore Amazon
Transportation Services (ATS) didn’t deliver the book. That they have returned the
book back because it was damaged and that he would help me claim my money back.<o:p></o:p></div>
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At this juncture I did ask the person why the status shows
that my wife signed for delivery. Isn’t it not misleading (I used one of those
3 words mentioned above) to show that the delivery was signed for ? And also wouldn’t
it amount to a wrong (another word among the 3 listed was used here) if someone
else signed for the person intended for ? <o:p></o:p></div>
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The customer care person apologized and promised that he
would arrange for the refund quickly. At this juncture I also asked for an
apology from AI for this misleading status.<o:p></o:p></div>
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Now this is where things go wary, the customer care
executive who spoke to me doesn’t take this issue with ATS who actually spoiled
/ damaged the book. But he took it up with the Book Seller (BS) asking him to
refund the money <b><u>because the book was not yet shipped.</u></b><span style="font-size: 14.6667px; line-height: 15.6933px;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> </span><span style="font-family: inherit;">This any </span></span><span style="font-family: inherit;">any seller would refuse</span> because the status on AI itself every clearly shows that the book has been delivered to the customer and it was signed for by Roopa. <span style="font-family: inherit;">The problem as mentioned before lies with ATS which AI needs to sort internally. </span></div>
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<span style="font-family: inherit;">The BS on July 29, 2016 sends a message that the book has already been shipped via ATS and hence they cannot cancel the order.</span></div>
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This puts me
off because it was AI’s problem and they had to sort it for me but instead they
had passed the buck on to the BS who promptly refused refund.<o:p></o:p></div>
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So I took this issue up with the AI customer care again on August 02, 2016. So
this lady who I chat with says that she will help me raise a “A-Z claim”
against the BS. I stopped her at this point and went on to explain (with a liberal
sprinkling of those 3 words) that the problem was due to ATS and hence the
problem was AI’s and therefore they cannot expect the BS to return the money. I
also urged that she listens to the initial call I had with one of their
executives where he clearly mentions that the problem is due to ATS. <o:p></o:p></div>
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At this juncture not satisfied with the direction the chat
was taking, I asked the lady to produce
the delivery receipt which my wife is supposed to have signed. And I tell them
that we can close this issue the moment they produce proof that my wife indeed signed
for delivery.<o:p></o:p></div>
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This is the point I lost it, and I lost it because of the
SCRIPTED few words of consolation that the call center executives were
repeating. Like I know how you feel, I would feel the same if I were you, we
are looking into it, I have escalated it, the teams would come back to you,
sorry for the inconvenience etc.<o:p></o:p></div>
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And I took to social media (SM), the first contact with the
AI twitter team was illuminating. The person tried educating me about the dangers
of putting out personal information on SM. And what was there ? The AI order
number. And after much deliberation he asked me to fill a form with the same
details they had. What order, what happened etc. After much protests I
helplessly filled the form again. And was promised that the case would be
looked into soon.<o:p></o:p></div>
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The SM team too blurted out the same SCRIPTED homilies and
said their teams are looking into my problem.<o:p></o:p></div>
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As the same pingpong continued, the “A-Z claim” was rejected
by the BS on August 07, 2016. I again lost it and took it up with the SM team who
send me a very nice, “<b><u>We cannot provide additional insights</u></b>” message.</div>
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I then took the case to the customer care team and explained
why the claim shouldn’t be sent to the BS but addressed by the ATS & AI
teams. This time the lady wanted me to appeal the claim and an appeal was
filed. I had in my appeal clearly mentioned the backstory. It was something
like the following…<o:p></o:p></div>
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The Amazon customer care personnel I first spoke to
confirmed that the book was never delivered because it was damaged, possibly by
the people of Amazon logistics (you should have the call records).<br /><o:p> </o:p>I am not sure how you reflect in your status that the book
was received and signed for by Roopa Krishnamurthy. It surely wasn't, if you
insist that it was then I will be happy to have the delivery receipt with her
signature.</blockquote>
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After much deliberations and heartburn the claim was duly
rejected without assigning any reason or provision of any documents on August
17, 2016<o:p></o:p></div>
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I have repeatedly tried to reach out to the AI customer care
and they have refused to talk to me, blocked me and have not answered any of my
legitimate questions.</div>
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I have been trying to reason out and appeal the rejection
again for the last 7 days without any proper response.<o:p></o:p></div>
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My questions to AI are the following<o:p></o:p></div>
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<li>You claim that the book was delivered and was signed for by Roopa
Krishnamurthy, provide me the proof if it indeed is available with you as you
claim in your status</li>
<li>If you don’t have proof (meaning you have NOT delivered the book),
acknowledge your fault, apologize</li>
<li>Refund my money, the Rs. 1307/- I paid for the book</li>
<li>If you are going to reject my claim after all this, I want
AI to properly explain the reason why the claim is being rejected and what
proof they have to do so</li>
</ol>
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That’s it.<o:p></o:p></div>
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PS: It is another interesting story that one of the AI
executives even offered me a short apology and a gift card of Rs 150 as a token
of apology. And I thought the issue was close to being solved. This was August
02, 2016 but it was let to escalate by the good guys of AI </div>
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PPS: I finally received a mail from AI some 7 minutes ago that they are looking into the issue. Nothing new, but let's be hopeful !! </div>
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<span style="color: #141823; font-family: "Helvetica",sans-serif; font-size: 10.5pt;">Last weekend, my sister-in-law whatsapp-ed a speech by Seeman, one of the many CM aspirants from <br />Tamil Nadu about Lord Ganesha. Although it was outright derogatory, I didn't find anything original in what he said (let's keep that for another post), I responded saying that and adding that it is the standard fare of the "Breaking India" forces to do such stuff. </span></div>
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<span style="color: #141823; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; line-height: 14.5pt;">This got us talking about the "Breaking India" forces. At this point a cousin asked me if this ("Breaking India" forces) has any correlation with the arrest & subsequent </span><span style="font-size: 14px; line-height: 19.3333px;">harassment of the present Acharya of Kanchi, Sri Jayendra Saraswati Swami.</span></span></div>
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<span style="color: #141823; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; line-height: 14.5pt;">At this point I remembered this 1981 interview of the Kanchi Paramacharya, where he had spoken clearly about the menace of </span><span style="font-size: 14px; line-height: 19.3333px;">appeasement and pandering to minorities.</span><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; line-height: 14.5pt;"> Paramacharya was known for his clarity of thought and also to speak his mind. So this interview in my view is something that accentuated the sustained hate campaign by the "Breaking India" forces against the Kanchi Kamakoti Peeta. </span></span></div>
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curious to know why I said that, which I explained in a set of 11 private
messages (on Twitter) to him.</span></div>
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<span style="color: #141823; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 14px; line-height: 14.5pt;">These 11 points explain why I think Sri Jayendra Saraswati Swami was </span><span style="font-size: 14px; line-height: 19.3333px;">targeted, harassed and hounded. </span><span style="font-size: 14px; line-height: 14.5pt;"> </span></span></div>
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<li style="line-height: 14.5pt;"><span style="color: #141823; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10.5pt; line-height: 14.5pt;">The Dravidian project and
their animus against Hindus in general & Brahmins in particular is well
known</span></li>
<li><span style="color: #141823; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10.5pt; line-height: 14.5pt;">There were many other things
that were propped up by this movement with the help of the missionary /
Indology research money</span></li>
<li><span style="color: #141823; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10.5pt; line-height: 14.5pt;">Among the major beneficiaries
of this funding are the people masquerading under the cover of Dalit movements and other anti-Hindu / Brahmin forces
(there is a thesis that even some bigger players are beneficiaries but that is to
be substantiated yet, so let us not talk about it for now)</span></li>
<li><span style="color: #141823; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10.5pt; line-height: 14.5pt;">One of the things they did
was to equate the Dalits of India to the African-Amercians and this resulted in
the starting of something we all know as the Afro-Dalit Project</span></li>
<li><span style="color: #141823; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10.5pt; line-height: 14.5pt;">This Afro-Dalit Project (ADP)
has a much stronger connection with TN thanks to the Dravidian theory (mainly
thanks to Bishop Caldwell) and this farce of the continent of Lemuria. This
thesis says that Africa and India were connected and possibly the Africans
& Dravidians share the same race / gene structure (which is a farce that
has been disproved)</span></li>
<li><span style="color: #141823; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10.5pt; line-height: 14.5pt;">I am sure you know of someone
called Dr Deivanayagam & his daughter Dr Devakala, they are among the rabid
missionary characters who talk about 3 things (major part of their discourse is
this)... (1) Sanskrit is an oppressive Aryan language (2) The Aryans subjugated
the poor Dravidians by deceit and destroyed their glorious civilization (3)
Thankfully St Thomas landed in Madras and brought god to the heathens and
civilized them (and eventually got killed by scheming Brahmins)</span></li>
<li><span style="color: #141823; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10.5pt; line-height: 14.5pt;">One of the major works of
Deivanayagam talks about how Thirukkural is a Christian work and how
Thiruvalluvar is a disciple of St Thomas (let us park this part in the side for
now and return to our main discussion)</span></li>
<li><span style="color: #141823; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10.5pt; line-height: 14.5pt;">So essentially the major
focus of these Breaking India forces is to convert as much as Dravidians
possible and for them, the Dalits are easy pickings</span></li>
<li><span style="color: #141823; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10.5pt; line-height: 14.5pt;">Now comes Swami Jayendra
Saraswati in 2002 when he strikes right
at the heart of their scheme. It all started with the Veera Kaliamman Kovil in
Melur when the Acharya started this wonderful thing of putting the Dalits at
ease with Sanatana Dharma</span><span style="color: #141823; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10.5pt; line-height: 14.5pt;"> </span></li>
<li><span style="color: #141823; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10.5pt; line-height: 14.5pt;">This
was seen as a major major threat for the Dravidian moment & the missionary
work that was being carried out and that is when the outright scheming against Sri Jayandra Saraswati in
particular and the Matha in general started gaining pace</span></li>
<li><span style="color: #141823; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10.5pt; line-height: 14.5pt;">This
was accentuated by the thought that Sri Jayendra was instrumental for bringing
the Anti-conversion law that was enacted by the TN government and also the bill
against Animal Sacrifice. So they panicked and that is when they started doing
what they did to silence <br />Sri Jayendra & the Matha</span></li>
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<span style="color: #141823; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: xx-small;"><span style="line-height: 19.3333px;">Thanks due to my cousin, Karthik who forced me to put together this little article !! </span></span></div>
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</div>RajaBhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12468551373665867713noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12011418.post-3485518500576465352016-04-04T11:45:00.001+04:002016-04-04T11:45:38.036+04:00Siya ke Ram: Why one shouldn’t watch it ?<div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on">
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Among the many things the Western world does to civilize us heathens
is their effort to tamper with our Sanskriti. One of the important parts of our
Sanskriti are the Puranas. As the name would suggest, Purana means something that
happened at an earlier time.</div>
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That clearly means that it isn’t a work of fiction or
imagination. While I wouldn’t get much into why and how here. There are many
resources available on net about dating Ramayana that debunk the lies put out
by Max Muller and co<a href="https://www.blogger.com/blogger.g?blogID=12011418#_ftn1" name="_ftnref1" title=""><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><!--[if !supportFootnotes]--><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><span style="font-family: "calibri" , sans-serif; font-size: 11.0pt; line-height: 107%;">[1]</span></span><!--[endif]--></span></a>.<o:p></o:p></div>
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These thinkers consider Ramayana as a story written not by
one (person) Valmiki but many, many people over a period of very many years. They say Ramayana originated as the story of a
King called Ram in the Jataka Tales of the Buddhists. The Brahmins then copied
it from them and started using Ramayana as a tool for social oppression with the blessings of the Kings<a href="https://www.blogger.com/blogger.g?blogID=12011418#_ftn2" name="_ftnref2" title=""><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><!--[if !supportFootnotes]--><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><span style="font-family: "calibri" , sans-serif; font-size: 11.0pt; line-height: 107%;">[2]</span></span><!--[endif]--></span></a>.
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The characters in Ramayana don’t have the power to think on
their own, they are controlled and manipulated by powerful characters. For
example, Rama is asked to go to the forest by Dasharata and without batting an
eyelid he goes. He doesn’t reason it out with Dasharata which means that Rama
is controlled by him and Rama can’t think on his own<a href="https://www.blogger.com/blogger.g?blogID=12011418#_ftn3" name="_ftnref3" title=""><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><!--[if !supportFootnotes]--><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><span style="font-family: "calibri" , sans-serif; font-size: 11.0pt; line-height: 107%;">[3]</span></span><!--[endif]--></span></a>.<o:p></o:p></div>
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The other important thing they put forward is that Ramayana
is the story about suppressing the “other”. The “Good” Rama kills the “Demonic”,
“Other” Ravana. This is based on a Western thought called “othering” where you demonize the other person whom you don't like or want to fight against. According
to these scholars, Ramayana and the cult of Rama didn’t exist in India (like
today) before the Islamic invasion happened. So worshiping and celebrating
Rama started only after the Islamic invasion as a tool to fan hatred against
the “other” invader and encourage people to fight them the same way Rama fought
Ravana. They project this theory on to the Rama Janmabhoomi dispute to show how
the Hindu fundamentalists “other” the minorities<a href="https://www.blogger.com/blogger.g?blogID=12011418#_ftn4" name="_ftnref4" title=""><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><!--[if !supportFootnotes]--><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><span style="font-family: "calibri" , sans-serif; font-size: 11.0pt; line-height: 107%;">[4]</span></span><!--[endif]--></span></a>.<o:p></o:p></div>
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There are other issues in Ramayana according to them, like
oppression of the backward classes, women etc. Encouraging the fact that the
ruler is god, he should be worshiped and he shouldn’t be questioned<a href="https://www.blogger.com/blogger.g?blogID=12011418#_ftn5" name="_ftnref5" title=""><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><!--[if !supportFootnotes]--><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><span style="font-family: "calibri" , sans-serif; font-size: 11.0pt; line-height: 107%;">[5]</span></span><!--[endif]--></span></a>.<o:p></o:p></div>
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This sort of distortion of truth to infuse our literature
with Western concepts and rewrite them in a "secular" or "sanitized" way is not just limited to Ramayana. This is
done on all works Indian and all things Sanatana Dharma. The Western scholars
call this secularizing Indian literature. <o:p></o:p></div>
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They want to remove all the oppressive elements from our
literature, clean it and then give us back a sanitized, secular version for public consumption. So,
Siya Ke Ram is one of the secularized versions of Ramayana which is being fed
to us.<o:p></o:p></div>
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If you notice, there is a subtle women’s right, tribal
oppression, regressive rituals, diabolic thinking of ancient Indians that is
highlighted in the serial.<o:p></o:p></div>
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For example, to show Sita as the champion example of a free
thinking, independent woman there is this promo I saw recently which shows her capturing
a Asvamedha horse from Ayodhya and being shown as THE example of a progressive woman, a
rebel.<o:p></o:p></div>
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If you know even a bit of Valmiki Ramayana, you will know
that Dasharata performed ONE Asvamedha before Rama was born, Sita wasn’t born
before Rama. And therefore Sita couldn’t have captured the Asva (horse) from
that Yajna ? Logic, right ? The story has been distorted to show Sita as a
rebel and an independent woman.<o:p></o:p></div>
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The next one is about the story of Shanta (Dasharata & Kaushalya’s
eldest daughter who was adopted by the King of Anga, Dasharata's very close friend and his wife, Kaushalya's elder sister).
Siya Ke Ram shows that Dasharata abandons his daughter in quest for a “Male”
child. And he makes Shanta sacrifice her
youth and beauty (I have put it very mildly here. I’m sure those who watched
the serial know how they show it) to go to the forest with Rishyasringa. All
this in exchange for getting Rishyasringa to do a Puthrakameshti Yajya to beget
a “Male” child. So you give away a "Female" child and pray for a "Male" child, a prime example for gender bias and oppression of women.<o:p></o:p></div>
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There are other things highlighted by many like showing the
demon “Other” as a tribal. This is to create tensions among the people of India
to get brother hate brother<a href="https://www.blogger.com/blogger.g?blogID=12011418#_ftn6" name="_ftnref6" title=""><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><!--[if !supportFootnotes]--><span class="MsoFootnoteReference"><span style="font-family: "calibri" , sans-serif; font-size: 11.0pt; line-height: 107%;">[6]</span></span><!--[endif]--></span></a>.<o:p></o:p></div>
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In essence Siya Ke Ram is nothing but an attempt by the Hinduphobic to discredit our Sanskriti. So that our kids (and even us)
who watch this serial think that our Puranas are nothing but oppressive stories
and start hating our own past and move to the more secular options that the Western
world will provide. <o:p></o:p></div>
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That is the reason why I say, Siya Ke Ram is pure poison
that is best avoided. If you really want to know more about Ramayana, indulge
in the Ramanand Sagar version that we saw as kids when we were growing up. That
is a far superior version that doesn’t contain the many distortions that the
current version has.<o:p></o:p></div>
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is one very good starting point<o:p></o:p></div>
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Read The Battle for Sanskrit (2016, Harper Collins India) by Sri Rajiv Malhotra
to know much more<o:p></o:p></div>
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Ibid<o:p></o:p></div>
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For more I would recommend this nice article<o:p></o:p></div>
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Saw a message from my cousin that his 6 year old daughter is confused between the Ramayana she was told by elders at home and what she watched on TV as Seethaiyin Raman (Siya Ke Ram in Hindi). My little niece wanted to understand the difference and also the reason behind it. The parent, my cousin wasn't very clear as to how he should explain the difference and he wasn't sure why there were differences in the first place.<br />
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So I embarked on a two step journey<br />
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<li>To explain the differences to my little niece the way she would understand. Something that would (close to) convince her young inquisitive mind and also be truthful. I also didn't want to go the US & THEM route that the usual Western interpretation of Indian history goes on as, so I wanted to very subtly highlight the difference and then let the kid take a call</li>
<li>To explain why Seethaiyin Raman (Siya Ke Ram) is poisonous for anyone in the long run</li>
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In this post we will look at the first part where I explain Seethaiyin Raman to my 6 year old niece. The idea here is to get the parents, my cousin or his wife read this out for my niece so that she understands things better (so that the parents explain the difficult words for a 6 year old) like "Ancestors" etc..</div>
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BTW, you will come across two characters (which you might not be aware of... I mean, non Ramayana characters), they are </div>
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<li>Karthik: My cousin who lives in Canada</li>
<li>Amrita: My little niece, Karthik's 6 year old daughter</li>
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----The post for Amrita----</div>
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Ramayana is a Purana (Puranam in Tamil).</div>
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Puranam means old, a Purana means something that describes
what happened in olden days, long long ago in a form you will understand, said
like a story that even a little girl like you will love and understand.</div>
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<o:p></o:p></div>
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How will you understand it better ? <o:p></o:p></div>
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If I write 200 pages and give it to you asking you to read
it OR if it is told like a nice story ? Like a Hare & a Tortoise !!<o:p></o:p></div>
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Now, if something has happened long ago, like Ramayana how
would you want to tell the story ?<o:p></o:p></div>
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Would you want to tell it as it was told by our ancestors
(grandfather’s grandfather’s grandfather’s grandfather and so on…)<o:p></o:p></div>
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OR<o:p></o:p></div>
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Would you add your own story and tell it ?<o:p></o:p></div>
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For example, would it be good if you say…<o:p></o:p></div>
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Rama & Sita were getting ready to leave, to go to the
forest. The whole of Ayodhya was sad, they were crying because their beloved
Rama & Sita were going to go to the forest. Appa was watching Cricket on TV
when Rama & Sita said goodbye and I was playing with my whiteboard, drawing
pictures. And Rama & Sita were gone.</blockquote>
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<o:p></o:p></div>
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If I tell you that this is the correct Ramayana and put it
on TV.<o:p></o:p></div>
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Would you believe it ? <o:p></o:p></div>
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Would it be nice to see a Ramayana with Karthik & Amrita
as two characters there ?<o:p></o:p></div>
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So, you need to ask yourself a question.<o:p></o:p></div>
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Is Ramayana a story ?<o:p></o:p></div>
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If you ask me, I will tell you it is NOT. <o:p></o:p></div>
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It is something that happened long long ago. <o:p></o:p></div>
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In an age called Treta Yuga. <o:p></o:p></div>
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Heard about Ice Age (nice movie, right ?). <o:p></o:p></div>
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Like the Ice age they show in the movie, the age of the
earth can be divided into 4 Yugas (this is for real !!). By the way, we live in
the 4<sup>th</sup> part. This is called Kali Yuga.<o:p></o:p></div>
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The second part of the age of earth was Treta Yuga and that
is when Rama lived. <o:p></o:p></div>
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Did you know ? The Treta Yuga part was more than a million
years !!<o:p></o:p></div>
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Ramayana tells you what happened to Rama, how he lived and
all that. <o:p></o:p></div>
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So Ramayana is actually like me reading a scrapbook you made during your summer vacation to understand how you enjoyed your vacation. Cool, right ?<o:p></o:p></div>
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Now that you understand a bit of what Ramayana is. Let us
see what Seethaiyin Raman is…<o:p></o:p></div>
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Seethaiyin Raman is like putting Appa, Amma, Amrita &
everyone in Ramayana and making it a nice story that everyone would watch on
TV.<o:p></o:p></div>
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You do many changes to the original Ramayana and make it a
STORY, like the Hare & a Tortoise. <o:p></o:p></div>
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Not good, right ?<o:p></o:p></div>
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Ask Appa to show you the Ramayana they did in Hindi &
showed in a TV channel called Doordarshan in India. This was shown when Appa
was a small kid like you, may be smaller than you !! <o:p></o:p></div>
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That, Amrita will get you understand Ramayana a little
better. And yes, it shows Ramayana without adding any extra stories.<o:p></o:p></div>
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God Bless !!<o:p></o:p></div>
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Dear Sir,<o:p></o:p></div>
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Further to our short discussion about Sri Ganesh and his critique on The Battle For Sanskrit (TBFS) by Sri Rajiv Malhotra (RM), I read
and reread his <a href="http://www.sandeepweb.com/the-bhagavad-gita-before-the-battle/" target="_blank">long critique</a>. RM himself has mentioned in the book and also
many times during his tour, he wants the discussion going and he also wants a
substantive debate that focusses more on the subject and not a person. So Sri
Ganesh’s joining the debate is a very welcome move. That said, I have observed
certain things in his critique that make me think that all is not fair and Sri
Ganesh might have some axe to grind against RM.<o:p></o:p></div>
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That said, I completely agree with you when you say that we
need to set aside our differences and unite for the sake of the larger cause. <o:p></o:p></div>
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<span style="font-family: "nirmala ui" , sans-serif;"><br /></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "nirmala ui" , sans-serif;">“கல்லாதது</span> <span style="font-family: "nirmala ui" , sans-serif;">கடல்</span> <span style="font-family: "nirmala ui" , sans-serif;">அளவு”<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "nirmala ui" , sans-serif; font-size: 9.0pt; line-height: 107%;">What is to be learnt measures an ocean</span><o:p></o:p></div>
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Before I go further let me clarify that I am not THE expert
on Sanatana Dharma or Sanskrit, I am just a student. But the beauty of our
culture is that one doesn’t have to be THE expert to join a discussion, he can
if he understands (just) what he is talking and more importantly if he is
willing to learn. <o:p></o:p></div>
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What I have must be less than a teaspoon, leave alone a handful.
So please pardon my enthusiasm and feel free to correct me. Now over to Sri
Ganesh’s critique and my observations.<o:p></o:p></div>
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<i>Further, he is also confused with some of the basic
terms like sastra, kavya and veda. The irony is that Malhotra himself doesn’t
know as much formal Sanskrit as the Indologists he is out to battle.</i></blockquote>
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Here, Sri Ganesh implies that RM relies on second hand information
when it comes to all things Sanskrit. From my lay perspective I don’t see a
problem with RM and I will not get into justifications just yet. But let me
point out that Sri Ganesh himself is found doing what he says RM is doing in
this critique. He uses the book (TBFS) as a substitute (the source) for Prof
Pollock’s writings and proceeds to criticize RM. <o:p></o:p></div>
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<i>Malhotra claims to merely perform purvapaksa, but in
places where he unwittingly tries his hand at siddhanta, he falls short. In
other places where the siddhanta is well-reasoned, it is entirely borrowed
(from scholars like K S Kannan, Arvind Sharma, T S Satyanath, etc.) <b>Perhaps
bringing them on board as co-authors might have salvaged this work in terms of
the quality of siddhanta (and also the diagnosis of the problem)</b>. However,
Malhotra deserves credit for attempting a purvapaksa. And this is why The
Battle for Sanskrit is a valuable work.</i></blockquote>
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In the start of the book itself RM is clear that he is doing
just the Purvapaksha and he would require a home team of EXPERTS in the
language & tradition to take the subject to the next step. I am sure <br />
Sri Ganesh is aware about the project to take the Purvapaksha of Prof Pollock’s
work further, initiated by Dr K S Kannan (information about which I had mailed
you 2 weeks ago). Having read the book, I don’t see RM prescribing anything. He
repeats time and again that he is just raising the red flag for a more
qualified home team to study them and take things forward and that his study is
ONLY descriptive. <o:p></o:p></div>
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Sri Ganesh doesn’t stop there, he even prescribes what could
have “salvaged” the quality of TBFS and also questions RM’s understanding of
the problem. In the next line he contradicts himself to praise RM for attempting
a Purvapaksha and calls TBFS a “valuable work”. He has probably taken the
principle of carrot & stick a bit too seriously and demonstrated its use in
a single paragraph.<o:p></o:p></div>
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<i>Western scholars are familiar with dissent but they
often lack a framework to reconcile with the differences and transcend them.
While Malhotra respects this spirit, he is unable, unfortunately, to express it
clearly in his book.</i></blockquote>
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<o:p></o:p></div>
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I thought is comes out clearly in the book, RM explains how
the outsider seeks to find differences, amplify them, demonize and then try to
secularize our texts using western theories. Among the many things discussed in
TBFS, Prof Pollock’s litererization, Ramayana as a text of “othering” and his
use of Walter Benjamin & his aesthetics of power, political &
liberation philology stand out as things <br />
Prof Pollock has done to run Sanskrit and Sanskriti down. And the advantage is
that RM has explained it so simply that even I could understand. <o:p></o:p></div>
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<i>That said, Malhotra’s analysis of European
Orientalism and its latter variant, what he terms ‘American Orientalism’ is
reasonably accurate.</i></blockquote>
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<i><o:p></o:p></i></div>
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What good is an analysis without explaining what European
Orientalism & American Orientalism stand for ? If RM’s analysis is
“reasonably accurate” then he surely has expressed something clearly in the book
? Because one can’t describe a portrait without taking into consideration the
subject / object it deals with. <o:p></o:p></div>
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<i>This viewing of India through the Western lens has
given rise to several erroneous conclusions and Malhotra makes this point
numerous times in his book (to the extent that he could have saved many pages
had he chosen not to repeat himself).</i></blockquote>
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Sri Ganesh seems to be more worried about saving paper than
seeing the matter in it. A layman in me can see the different contexts that RM
is addressing by repeating the issue of looking India through a western lens.
For example the theories of aesthetization of power and liberation philology
are two different lenses although the expected end result of using them might
be the same, running down Sanskrit & Sanskriti. So you have lenses of
multiple focal lengths that end doing the same damage that would sit in the big
bag of western lenses. That is the reason why RM refers to the big bag when you
describe a specific focal length. <o:p></o:p></div>
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<i>While his comparison of the two kinds of Orientalism
is notable, he begins to falter when he compares the ‘Sanskrit Traditionalists’
and ‘American Orientalists.</i></blockquote>
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I guess Sri Ganesh has got it wrong here, what RM refers to
in his book is about two kinds of people, (1) Insider & (2) Outsider. I
don’t think he terms the insider as a “Sanskrit traditionalist”, if RM
describes so then the first person to fall out of this categorization would be
he himself. In simple terms (paraphrasing RM in my own words) insider is anyone
who understands & respects the Paramarthika & Vyavaharika realms of
Sanskrit, in other words he acknowledges the Sanskriti. The outsider is one who
secularizes the language by acknowledging only Vyavaharika and attributes
motivesto it & calls Paramarthika as some mumbo-jumbo used for suppressing
the lesser privileged.<o:p></o:p></div>
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<i>Further, he seems to be ignorant of the voluminous
writings of D D Kosambi, Debiprasad Chattopadhyaya, R S Sharma, and Rahul
Sankrityayan, who opposed Sanskrit and/or Sanskriti long before this supposed
American collusion (and even when he mentions Kosambi and Sharma, it is in
passing).</i></blockquote>
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This sounds more
like, because the author didn’t quote A or B or C enough times I expected, I
call him ignorant. Sri Ganesh seems to be missing the point here, all those
authors he has mentioned would fit into the “Outsider” category RM describes
although they are Insiders from a geographical sense. For instance Marxism as
far as we all know is a western concept. So a different focal length but the
same western lens.<o:p></o:p></div>
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<i>…but this cannot, sadly, absolve Malhotra of his
blatant disregard to the past masters (in spite of his ostentatious dedication
line to “our purva-paksha and uttara-paksha debating tradition…”) Not stopping
at ignoring the remarkable scholars of the past and present, in several places
in his book, Malhotra directly accuses Indian scholars of either being
unwillingly complicit with the enemies (p. 68), or being irresponsible (p. 15),
or being uninterested (p. 44), or being unaware of Western scholarship (p. 1).
He lacks empathy for the numerous scholars who are deeply involved in their own
research – be it a specific aspect of Sanskrit grammar, or the accurate dating
of an ancient scholar, or preparing a critical edition of a traditional text.
And to top it all, Malhotra writes in several places that he is the first
person to undertake such a task (see pp. 27, 44, or 379, for example), which as
we know is false.</i></blockquote>
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There are many things Sri Ganesh accuses RM of starting with
a blatant disregard for the past masters which for me is a bit frivolous and
very similar to what I have said before. The reader / reviewer giving a long
list of illustrious Indian scholars and saying that the author by not naming
each one of them in A BOOK of his is a grave mistake, to an extent that it
discredits his work completely. Most of the people mentioned in the list have
been mentioned by RM in some work of his or the other.<o:p></o:p></div>
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The other important thing is a generalization that he does
to tar RM, that he accuses all Indian scholars. On this I remember I video of
the book launch in the Karnataka Sanskrit University (if my memory serves
right), he asks the audience, a group of scholars and students of Sanskrit as
to how many of them have done some Purvapaksha of any western work. Two people
raise their hands reluctantly and the fact that RM found that they too hadn’t
done substantive Purvapaksha is another matter. So RM is not saying nobody has
done anything, but is clearly saying that one review here and an unpublished
work there don’t qualify as a Purvapaksha. Unless they jump into the
Kurukshetra and take the bull by its horn, it would be a drop of water in the
western Indological ocean. That said, is
RM the FIRST is a question left to RM to answer. <o:p></o:p></div>
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For me the question is not about first or second, to quote my favorite Rajinikant dialogue…</div>
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<span style="font-family: "nirmala ui" , sans-serif;">“லேட்டா</span> <span style="font-family: "nirmala ui" , sans-serif;">வந்தாலும்</span> <span style="font-family: "nirmala ui" , sans-serif;">லேட்டஸ்டா</span> <span style="font-family: "nirmala ui" , sans-serif;">வருவேன்”</span><o:p></o:p></div>
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In an important discourse it doesnt matter who came first or last, what matters is the contribution. For me that is exactly what RM has done.</div>
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<i>While it is the saving grace of the book, it is also
an indicator of Malhotra’s obsession with Western academia, to the extent that
the reader gets the impression that Hinduism will not survive unless Western
academia views it in a better light.</i></blockquote>
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Another point Sri Ganesh completely misunderstands about RM.
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Yesterday (26.03) on twitter, I read this passionate RM
supporter who was trying to talk about the contribution of India to grammar,
science etc. A famous troll (I don’t want to name and give credit) tells him
that he cannot do that in a peer reviewed academic paper without citing Prof
Pollock as one of his sources. That is what we are faced up with. The west will
tell you that India henceforth will be called South Asia, and define our
religion based on their thinking, our guys will go get educated there, come
back and crow what they were taught by their western masters and their theories.
There are ample examples of these sepoys if we look around (who hold forte on
all things Hindu in MSM).<o:p></o:p></div>
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And finally in his concluding remarks, Sri Ganesh says this…<o:p></o:p></div>
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<i>The battle for Sanskrit and Sanskriti is not a new
one. San?tana dharma has survived years of onslaught from many quarters in many
guises. But this doesn’t mean that we should ignore the current threats.
Malhotra has given a new shape to the debate and because of his influence, this
message has spread widely. As he himself writes, it is hoped that more Indian
scholars will get on board and provide fitting responses to Malhotra’s red
flagging of problematic areas in Pollock’s discourse.</i></blockquote>
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While acknowledging RM’s contribution through TBFS
grudgingly, he also gives out another very important thing about the purpose of
the book, to get more Indian scholars to
get into the home team and provide fitting responses based on the red flags RM
has raised. <o:p></o:p></div>
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If someone got this, then he is cognizant of the red flags
and of course the merit of RM raising them. <br />
If that is acknowledged then what is the point ? Let us all join RM, Dr KS
Kannan’s Purvapaksha project and work towards a common goal instead of trying
to prove whose ego is bigger.<o:p></o:p></div>
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There is one more thing I wish to mention from Sri Ganesh’s
critique before I close.<o:p></o:p></div>
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<i>Sanskrit words are non-translatable (pp. 22, 32,
101)</i></blockquote>
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Never in the book or beyond RM has said that Sanskrit words
are non-translatable. He has clearly mentioned a few of those words that have a
deeper meaning & sound and can’t be translated in “one word”. So it is not
Sanskrit that can’t be translated it is certain words that can’t be. That too,
is limited to “one word” translations. What RM implies here is that those words
should be EXPLAINED to get the actual meaning out and hence while using them it
is better to use the Sanskrit original as a transliteration rather than
translating them and explaining them separately. An example that RM frequently quotes is “Aatma” which is commonly
translated as “Soul” which actually is wrong.<o:p></o:p></div>
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From what I understand from Sri Rajiv Malhotra (through this
e-group interactions) is that he has always been open to working with Sri
Ganesh and there is always a road block on the other side. As you will agree we
need two hands to clap and just one to slap. Sri Rajiv has been extending that
hand waiting for the other to join him in clapping, let us all hope Sri Ganesh
joins in soon.<o:p></o:p></div>
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regards>raja<o:p></o:p></div>
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PS: I hope there is a nice intellectual discourse between
the two scholars to iron all differences out and we get to see them coming
together soon. And yes, these personal attack from both sides should stop
immediately. Sri Rajiv Malhotra has repeated it time and again in his group and
I am sure people will heed to this request of his.<o:p></o:p></div>
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PPS: Has this critique been stitched up by many people who probably read one chapter
each and then copy edited by one person ?<o:p></o:p></div>
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PPPS: When I finished reading The Battle For Sanskrit last
week little did I expected that I would write this as a rejoinder to someone
who should actually be part of the home team. All I thought about at that point
in time was a small 2 page review of the book.<o:p></o:p></div>
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</div>RajaBhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12468551373665867713noreply@blogger.com6tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12011418.post-13352634152708836622016-02-05T07:43:00.002+04:002016-02-05T07:53:50.265+04:00The aftermath of my Ambrose post...<div dir="ltr" style="text-align: left;" trbidi="on">
After my post yesterday, the friend came up with two interesting points to illustrate why my approach might be wrong. While his points are very interesting and might sound as logical as my earlier post on paper, I had to respectfully disagree and I just did that.<br />
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So this post gives you an account of the points he raised and my response to him. At this point I really want to thank the two people for making this interesting engagement possible, my friend and his friend whom I guess I can call "my friend" henceforth. Thanks to them, I have my second post in 24 hours after a break of almost an year.<br />
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<span style="background-color: #f6f7f8; color: #141823; font-family: "helvetica" , "arial" , sans-serif; font-size: 12px; line-height: 16.08px;"> I love the allure of statistics, ratios and averages. End of the day. its about wickets and runs. I mean Kohli has an average of 40 and 50 in tests and ODIs and so does Dhoni. it does not make MSD as good a batsman is VK? Or maybe he is.</span></blockquote>
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Cricket as a game is loaded against the bowlers. Everything
favours the batsmen, the bowler is only remembered for his worst performance
(unless and until he’s part of the list we discussed in the previous post). Case in
point is Chetan Sharma who is still remembered for that last ball he bowled to
Miandad. Nobody even bothers to talk about his world cup hattrick against the
Kiwi’s in 1987.<o:p></o:p></div>
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Now, coming to your comparing batting averages against the
numbers I put up in my previous post…<o:p></o:p></div>
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They are chalk & cheese. You can’t compare the bowling
strike rate with the batting average. Why strike rate, you can’t even compare
the bowling average with the batting average.<o:p></o:p></div>
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Batting average is a straight division of the RUNS MADE by
INNINGS TAKEN leaving out the innings one was UNBEATEN (Not Out). Note: There is a Not Out
consideration<o:p></o:p></div>
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Bowling average is about the runs conceded per wicket<o:p></o:p></div>
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Bowling strike rate is about the balls bowled before a wicket
was taken<o:p></o:p></div>
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You don’t have a measure to directly compare the two
averages.<o:p></o:p></div>
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If I made one up, it would be something like this..<o:p></o:p></div>
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Ambrose played 179 innings for his 405 wickets. The average
would be 405/179 = 2.26. Meaning he took something like 2 wickets per innings
(Murali will have 3.5 with his 800 wickets in 230 innings). </div>
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But this is still
not comparable, because there isn’t anything that would come close to a Not Out
in bowling. And they are two completely different trades although in the same game, Bowling and Batting.<o:p></o:p></div>
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There is a Batting Strike Rate which measures the number of
runs scored per 100 balls. <o:p></o:p></div>
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Let us look at Ambrose again, he faced 3080 balls for his
1439 runs. So his strike rate is 1439/3080 (*100) = 46.72<o:p></o:p></div>
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VVS Laxman faced 17,785 balls for his 8781 runs with a
strike rate of 49.37.<o:p></o:p></div>
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So can we say Laxman = Ambrose ? You will call me names <span style="font-family: "wingdings"; mso-ascii-font-family: Calibri; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-char-type: symbol; mso-hansi-font-family: Calibri; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-symbol-font-family: Wingdings;">J</span><o:p></o:p></div>
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Because for a batsman you need to look at the average in the
long haul. You can compare a Kohli & Dhoni with the averages. That would be
a Quantitative take, purely based on runs scored and innings taken. If you
compare their batsmanship on technique and flair, that would be a Qualitative
take.<o:p></o:p></div>
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And yes, for a Quantitative take you need to define your
minimum requirement. For example you cannot compare a player A who has only
played 15 innings with a player B who had played 125 innings. That is why in
many cases cricket statisticians define a min comparison requirement in terms
of the number matches played.<o:p></o:p></div>
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Now getting back to our topic, bowling. The analysis I
provided only gives you a prediction, a forecast had Ambrose played a bit more,
bowled a bit more. According to the stats, I concluded that he might have taken
more wickets and broken into the top 3 wicket takers had he played more, bowled
more. But we all know he didn’t.<o:p></o:p></div>
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So in this case, what I wrote as my concluding para (two
paras) is what matters (BTW, I struck down the uncomfortable truth in the game
of cricket).<o:p></o:p></div>
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“<i>For the time he has
spent on the field, he has done extraordinarily well. <s>Just that we are trained
/ conditioned to look at the wrong piece of stat to decide who / what a best
bowler is</s><o:p></o:p></i></div>
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<i>Hence Ambrose is
surely among the best of bowlers Cricket world has seen, irrespective of 400 or
800.</i>”<o:p></o:p></div>
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<span style="background-color: #f6f7f8; color: #141823; font-family: "helvetica" , "arial" , sans-serif; font-size: 12px; line-height: 16.08px;">So is it in soccer, it is about goals. hence Messi + Ronaldo will always be the highest rated. of course this year, Lewandowski might have a chance at it. </span><br />
<span style="background-color: #f6f7f8; color: #141823; font-family: "helvetica" , "arial" , sans-serif; font-size: 12px; line-height: 16.08px;">In Tennis, you have no choice but to see tournament wins. </span><br />
<span style="background-color: #f6f7f8; color: #141823; font-family: "helvetica" , "arial" , sans-serif; font-size: 12px; line-height: 16.08px;">In Athletics; Gold medals, not even Silver. How cruel. Who cares if Usain Bolt is last of the blocks. Or if he pulls up before the tape. </span><br />
<span style="background-color: #f6f7f8; color: #141823; font-family: "helvetica" , "arial" , sans-serif; font-size: 12px; line-height: 16.08px;">My boss would want to know if i made plan. Nothing to do with productivity, averages etc etc etc.</span></blockquote>
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Every game has its
different way of looking at player performance. I would say the soccer stats are very
cruel too. They are only forward / midfield friendly. What happens to a
defender or a non goal scorer ? How do you evaluate him ?<o:p></o:p></div>
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Again, you cannot bring athletics or any individual sport / single player game
in here. Because in those cases performance evaluation is simple, like you say
about Usain Bolt. It is black or white. So you don't need the crutch of a piece of stat to
measure effectiveness.<o:p></o:p></div>
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For me, the three (all round) stat friendly team games (from
a player performance evaluation perspective) are basketball (NBA), Baseball (MLB) and
Ice-hockey (NHL).<o:p></o:p></div>
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So in summary, two very interesting points raised by this friend</div>
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Comparing the bowling statistics to batting: My answer is simple, we cannot directly compare a piece of bowling stat with that of batting. Plus what I did in my previous post is not to prove that Ambrose would definitely have taken 800 wickets or more.</div>
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It was an attempt to see if he might have had be played more. Given what his performance is, the stats say that he might have. We know he didn't.</div>
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But the main point is that the fact that he didn't doesn't in anyway eclipse the fact that he is a top class bowler.</div>
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And two,</div>
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You cannot compare individual sports with individual sports. Or for that matter compare a game A to B in terms of the stats you churn out, for certain indicators might not be in vogue or even available for the sport in question. </div>
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<span style="font-size: x-small;">Stats: Thanks to Cricinfo</span></div>
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<span lang="EN-US">After hibernating
for long, I decided I should do a post on this one.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span lang="EN-US">To give a
background, a good friend posts a video of Curtly Ambrose running through the
Australians 23 years ago. A friend of that friend posts a nice piece of stat
showing the top wicket takers in the world and bemoans the fact as to why
Ambrose is not among the highest wicket takers in the world. In the post below,
I try to reason why his anguish might be a little misplaced.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal">
<span lang="EN-US"><br /></span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal">
<span lang="EN-US">To get things going, that is the link for <a href="https://www.facebook.com/cricketcomau/videos/10153895939264313/?fref=nf" target="_blank">the video</a> and see below for the nice piece of stat this friend of my friend had posted. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<span lang="EN-US"><br /></span></div>
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<span lang="EN-US"><br /></span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal">
And now,
what do I think about Ambrose the bowler ?</div>
<div class="MsoNormal">
<span lang="EN-US"><br /></span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal">
<span lang="EN-US">Top bowler
in cricket is a warped term. We see top from the perspective of the number of
wickets taken.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal">
<span lang="EN-US"><br /></span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal">
<span lang="EN-US">If you go
by that, yes Ambrose ended up with 405 wickets.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal">
<span lang="EN-US"><br /></span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal">
<span lang="EN-US">Let me show
you how he compares with Muralidaran<o:p></o:p></span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal">
<span lang="EN-US"><br /></span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal">
<span lang="EN-US">Number of
Matches: Ambrose (A) = 98 Murali (M) = 133<o:p></o:p></span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal">
<span lang="EN-US"><br /></span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal">
<span lang="EN-US">Number of
innings: A = 179 M = 230<o:p></o:p></span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal">
<span lang="EN-US"><br /></span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal">
<span lang="EN-US">Wickets
taken: A = 405 M = 800<o:p></o:p></span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal">
<span lang="EN-US"><br /></span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal">
<span lang="EN-US">Strike rate
(balls taken per wicket): A = 54.5 M = 55<o:p></o:p></span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal">
<span lang="EN-US"><br /></span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal">
<span lang="EN-US">Number of balls
bowled: A = 22,103 M = 44,039<o:p></o:p></span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal">
<span lang="EN-US"><br /></span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal">
<span lang="EN-US">What can we
see from there ?</span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal">
</div>
<ol style="text-align: left;">
<li><span style="text-indent: -18pt;">Murali
has played 35 more matches than Ambrose (51 innings more)</span></li>
<li><span lang="EN-US" style="text-indent: -18pt;">Murali
has taken twice the number of wickets (almost)</span></li>
<li><span lang="EN-US" style="text-indent: -18pt;">The
two bowlers have taken more or less the same number of balls per wicket</span></li>
<li><span lang="EN-US" style="text-indent: -18pt;">Murali
has bowled almost twice the number of balls Ambrose bowled</span></li>
</ol>
<br />
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Keeping in
mind the fact that their strike rate is almost the same, we should note the
following</div>
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</div>
<ul style="text-align: left;">
<li><span style="text-indent: -18pt;">Ambrose played less number of
matches / innings compared to Murali</span></li>
<li><span style="text-indent: -18pt;">But the clincher, Murali had twice
the opportunity Ambrose had to get his 800</span></li>
</ul>
<br />
<div class="MsoNormal">
Now, there
could be other counter arguments like</div>
<div class="MsoNormal">
</div>
<ul style="text-align: left;">
<li><span style="text-indent: -18pt;">Murali took 5 wickets an innings 3
times more than Ambrose (A = 22 M = 67)</span></li>
<li><span lang="EN-US" style="text-indent: -18pt;"><span style="font-size: 7pt; font-stretch: normal;"> </span></span><span lang="EN-US" style="text-indent: -18pt;">Murali took 10 wickets per match 7
times more than Ambrose (A = 3 M = 22)</span></li>
</ul>
<br />
<div class="MsoNormal">
According
to me there are three (actually two) types of bowlers (and their ways of
getting test wickets)</div>
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</div>
<ol style="text-align: left;">
<li><span style="text-indent: -18pt;">An assiduous one who keeps working
for his wickets</span></li>
<li><span style="text-indent: -18pt;">A gifted one who strikes at will
(Dale Steyn for example)</span></li>
<li><span style="text-indent: -18pt;">A combination of both</span></li>
</ol>
<br />
<div class="MsoNormal">
Most of the
bowlers belong to the first category, where if you wanted to use a cricket cliché,
they hunted in pairs. Murali was a combination, may be mainly because he didn’t
have anyone to combine with for most part of his career.</div>
<div class="MsoNormal">
<span lang="EN-US"><br /></span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal">
<span lang="EN-US">The problem
while hunting in pairs is that you are sharing the workload and hence the fruit
too. If you compare for example Walsh with Ambrose (and discount the fact that
Walsh played more tests compared to Ambrose) you will see that both have produced
very similar results. The important fact there is that Ambrose has a better
strike rate or wicket taking ability among the two. But he has still ended up
with lesser wickets compared to Walsh (519) thanks to the fact that he played
lesser games than him (Walsh = 132, Innings = 242).<o:p></o:p></span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal">
<span lang="EN-US"><br /></span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal">
<span lang="EN-US">The fact
that most of the bowlers in the list of
top wicket takers are fast bowlers again plays a huge role in the workload per
match / innings (in other words the number of overs they bowled).<o:p></o:p></span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal">
<span lang="EN-US"><br /></span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal">
<span lang="EN-US">So considering
the fact that Ambrose was a genuine fast bowler let us discount the comparison
on the number of overs bowled vis-à-vis Murali. He couldn’t have bowled that
many overs.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal">
<span lang="EN-US"><br /></span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal">
<span lang="EN-US">Then we can
conclude that had Ambrose played a bit more (even to the extent Walsh did), he
would have surely broken into the Top 5 if not the 3. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal">
<span lang="EN-US"><br /></span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal">
<span lang="EN-US">For the
time he has spent on the field, he has done extraordinarily well. Just that we
are trained / conditioned to look at the wrong piece of stat to decide who /
what a best bowler is<o:p></o:p></span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal">
<span lang="EN-US"><br /></span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal">
<span lang="EN-US">Hence
Ambrose is surely among the best of bowlers Cricket world has seen,
irrespective of 400 or 800.</span></div>
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<span style="font-size: x-small;"><br /></span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal">
<span style="font-size: x-small;">Stats: Courtesy Cricinfo</span> </div>
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<span style="font-family: Calibri;">Dear Prof.,</span><br />
<br />
<span style="font-family: Calibri;">Greetings !!</span><br />
<br />
<span style="font-family: Calibri;">I beg to differ on lot of things you had said in our whatsapp conversation. In fact, I will use a stronger word, that I DISAGREE on the things you say. Let us go
point by point to see why.<o:p></o:p></span><br />
<br />
<div class="MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; text-indent: -0.25in;">
<!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="mso-bidi-font-family: Calibri; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin;"><span style="mso-list: Ignore;"><span style="font-family: Calibri;">a.</span><span style="font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; font: 7pt/normal "Times New Roman";">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="font-family: Calibri;">That map isn’t the true picture of India: Why do
I think so ? Rape or atrocities on women is not unique to India. I am not going
to give you statistics and start a discourse about “rape per capita” of India vis-à-vis
western countries. When SIR Jimmy Saville, the great BBC presenter was mired in
child sex abuse cases no one in England painted a map of it with crying
children. Rape is horrific and to condone this pop culture of painting a whole
country’ map with that and to say that that is the true picture of our country is
just SAD (yes, in caps)<o:p></o:p></span></div>
<br />
<div class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; text-indent: -0.25in;">
<!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="mso-bidi-font-family: Calibri; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin;"><span style="mso-list: Ignore;"><span style="font-family: Calibri;">b.</span><span style="font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; font: 7pt/normal "Times New Roman";">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="font-family: Calibri;">Are we now a sick society ? NO (again in caps):
Please do remember that this society which you call sick is the one that houses
people like your father, brother, husband, friends like me and many more who don’t
believe in and are strongly against the abuse of women. We all make this society, so to call it sick
is calling all of us sick. Painting all of us black in one stroke is just NOT
RIGHT (again in caps). But yes, there are some sick people in our society like
in any other society. Like another famous English man and glam rock singer Gary
Glitter. Another English pedophile, do people like him make England a sick
society ?<o:p></o:p></span></div>
<br />
<div class="MsoListParagraphCxSpLast" style="margin: 0in 0in 8pt 0.5in; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; text-indent: -0.25in;">
<!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="mso-bidi-font-family: Calibri; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-latin;"><span style="mso-list: Ignore;"><span style="font-family: Calibri;">c.</span><span style="font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; font: 7pt/normal "Times New Roman";">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="font-family: Calibri;">You say you need that documentary to make people
aware of such things: Didn’t we not have press coverage of the incident itself
? Didn’t we have many debates about how to change the mindset then ? And how do
you think that a BBC documentary that is mainly for western consumption, to show us
as savages that was also going to be telecast in an Indian English news TV that
is #2 or #3 among English news TV will make people aware ? Who are the people
you are referring to ? People like you and me ? But we already know and are
aware of this thing. I don’t have girls, yes. But I do speak to my boys about
respecting fellow human beings irrespective of caste, creed, colour, sex or
occupation. So I don’t need to be educated about such things and I think you don’t
have that need too. Do you think this documentary will reach those who need to
be reached ? I don’t think the motive was to educate or make OUR (caps again) people
aware of such things. Did BBC make a documentary of Saville, Glitter or the
famous VIP pedophile ring with the intention of informing, educating and make
the British society aware of the evils it was facing ? NO (caps again !!) The
motive here is to show us as a sick society of savages who run around raping and
abusing women. And that my dear friend is just not on<o:p></o:p></span></div>
<br />
<div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 8pt;">
<span style="font-family: Calibri;">This documentary is sick, perverse and paints all of us Indian
men with the same brush as rapists and abusers of women. My mother, sister,
wife and many of my good friends including you are women. I respect each one of
them for what they are and would continue to. Not only that, I will also
educate my boys to continue this tradition of respecting the people who bring
us to life, our women. And I don’t need BBC to preach me about respecting
women. Let them go do it in their country, talk about the many pedophiles,
rapists and savages they have. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
<br />
<div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 8pt;">
<span style="font-family: Calibri;">And these so called “liberals”, the sepoys of the west among
us who promote such discourse that shows our great country in poor light ? God
bless them. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
<br />
<div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 8pt;">
<span style="font-family: Calibri;">You, Professor play an important role shaping the future of
this country. So please tell the future generation how great a country we are
and how we should be. Educate the future about these lumpen elements in our midst and how to quell them from our society. But please don’t be party to this, “We are a sick society”
discourse. It is just disrespecting your father, brother, husband & your
friends like me and many more. We don’t want a generation that hates men or
views all of them with suspicion.</span><br />
<br />
<span style="font-family: Calibri;">Bharat MATA Ki Jai !!</span><br />
<br />
<span style="font-family: Calibri;">regards>raja</span></div>
</div>
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10 was a small number till a while back, my sons knew that from times I don’t remember. <br />
<br />
If you want to test me about “Times”<br />
<br />
I know all the important details… <br />
<br />
Their names, as they are spelt in official papers with the exception of a stray “d”, “h”, “t” & “a”<br />
<br />
Their dates of birth, to the year plus or minus 2<br />
<br />
And believe me, even the class they are in, at least 2 in 12 times<br />
<br />
Ok, coming back to the story… 3,650 days, many things have happened in the interim<br />
<br />
A big move, geographically<br />
<br />
A bigger move, the birth of a son<br />
<br />
Even bigger, setting up a young family at a distant land unknown<br />
<br />
And bigger, getting a school admission for the son<br />
<br />
More, when the second son was born<br />
<br />
Much more, when he got to the same school as his elder brother<br />
<br />
And yes, the biggest of all… <br />
<br />
Something that was the BIG, great start of these small big things above<br />
<br />
The day when RoopaK took up a great challenge, the greatest of her life till <br />
<br />
Anirudhha & Anantaa got together<br />
<br />
Yes, it is 10 years since she committed the blunder of her life<br />
<br />
I have no shame in admitting that I am Mr RoopaK and it is 10 years since that name change of mine happened<br />
<br />
Thank you RoopaK for the wonderful and most adventurous 10 years we have had…<br />
<br />
I am sure I haven’t lived up to your standards and I am not sure I ever will<br />
<br />
Sweets, here’s to many more…</div>
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