Tuesday, May 03, 2016

The case against Sri Jayendra Saraswati & the breaking India forces

Before we get started, let me give a bit of a background as to how we arrived at this old Twitter conversation (from January 2016).

Last weekend, my sister-in-law whatsapp-ed a speech by Seeman, one of the many CM aspirants from
Tamil Nadu about Lord Ganesha. Although it was outright derogatory, I didn't find anything original in what he said (let's keep that for another post), I responded saying that and adding that it is the standard fare of the "Breaking India" forces to do such stuff. 

This got us talking about the "Breaking India" forces. At this point a cousin asked me if this ("Breaking India" forces) has any correlation with the arrest & subsequent harassment of the present Acharya of Kanchi, Sri Jayendra Saraswati Swami.

At this point I remembered this 1981 interview of the Kanchi Paramacharya, where he had spoken clearly about the menace of appeasement and pandering to minorities.  Paramacharya was known for his clarity of thought and also to speak his mind. So this interview in my view is something that accentuated the sustained hate campaign by the "Breaking India" forces against the Kanchi Kamakoti Peeta.   


This interview was posted on twitter by a very respected, learned man, a Senior Professor (whom I am not naming at this point in time as I haven't asked his permission to put our private conversation out in public). 

I retweeted the interview posted adding my comments. 


The Professor was curious to know why I said that, which I explained in a set of 11 private messages (on Twitter) to him.

These 11 points explain why I think Sri Jayendra Saraswati Swami was targeted, harassed and hounded.  
  1. The Dravidian project and their animus against Hindus in general & Brahmins in particular is well known
  2. There were many other things that were propped up by this movement with the help of the missionary / Indology research money
  3. Among the major beneficiaries of this funding are the people masquerading under the cover of Dalit movements and other anti-Hindu / Brahmin forces (there is a thesis that even some bigger players are beneficiaries but that is to be substantiated yet, so let us not talk about it for now)
  4. One of the things they did was to equate the Dalits of India to the African-Amercians and this resulted in the starting of something we all know as the Afro-Dalit Project
  5. This Afro-Dalit Project (ADP) has a much stronger connection with TN thanks to the Dravidian theory (mainly thanks to Bishop Caldwell) and this farce of the continent of Lemuria. This thesis says that Africa and India were connected and possibly the Africans & Dravidians share the same race / gene structure (which is a farce that has been disproved)
  6. I am sure you know of someone called Dr Deivanayagam & his daughter Dr Devakala, they are among the rabid missionary characters who talk about 3 things (major part of their discourse is this)... (1) Sanskrit is an oppressive Aryan language (2) The Aryans subjugated the poor Dravidians by deceit and destroyed their glorious civilization (3) Thankfully St Thomas landed in Madras and brought god to the heathens and civilized them (and eventually got killed by scheming Brahmins)
  7. One of the major works of Deivanayagam talks about how Thirukkural is a Christian work and how Thiruvalluvar is a disciple of St Thomas (let us park this part in the side for now and return to our main discussion)
  8. So essentially the major focus of these Breaking India forces is to convert as much as Dravidians possible and for them, the Dalits are easy pickings
  9. Now comes Swami Jayendra Saraswati in 2002 when he strikes right at the heart of their scheme. It all started with the Veera Kaliamman Kovil in Melur when the Acharya started this wonderful thing of putting the Dalits at ease with Sanatana Dharma 
  10. This was seen as a major major threat for the Dravidian moment & the missionary work that was being carried out and that is when the outright scheming against Sri Jayandra Saraswati in particular and the Matha in general started gaining pace
  11. This was accentuated by the thought that Sri Jayendra was instrumental for bringing the Anti-conversion law that was enacted by the TN government and also the bill against Animal Sacrifice. So they panicked and that is when they started doing what they did to silence
    Sri Jayendra & the Matha
It is high time we realized how the "Breaking India" forces operate and start countering it as ONE community !!

Thanks due to my cousin, Karthik who forced me to put together this little article !! 

Monday, April 04, 2016

Siya ke Ram: Why one shouldn’t watch it ?

Among the many things the Western world does to civilize us heathens is their effort to tamper with our Sanskriti. One of the important parts of our Sanskriti are the Puranas. As the name would suggest, Purana means something that happened at an earlier time.

That clearly means that it isn’t a work of fiction or imagination. While I wouldn’t get much into why and how here. There are many resources available on net about dating Ramayana that debunk the lies put out by Max Muller and co[1].

These thinkers consider Ramayana as a story written not by one (person) Valmiki but many, many people over a period of very many years.  They say Ramayana originated as the story of a King called Ram in the Jataka Tales of the Buddhists. The Brahmins then copied it from them and started using Ramayana as a tool for social oppression with the blessings of the Kings[2].  

The characters in Ramayana don’t have the power to think on their own, they are controlled and manipulated by powerful characters. For example, Rama is asked to go to the forest by Dasharata and without batting an eyelid he goes. He doesn’t reason it out with Dasharata which means that Rama is controlled by him and Rama can’t think on his own[3].

The other important thing they put forward is that Ramayana is the story about suppressing the “other”. The “Good” Rama kills the “Demonic”, “Other” Ravana. This is based on a Western thought called “othering” where you demonize the other person whom you don't like or want to fight against. According to these scholars, Ramayana and the cult of Rama didn’t exist in India (like today) before the Islamic invasion happened. So worshiping and celebrating Rama started only after the Islamic invasion as a tool to fan hatred against the “other” invader and encourage people to fight them the same way Rama fought Ravana. They project this theory on to the Rama Janmabhoomi dispute to show how the Hindu fundamentalists “other” the minorities[4].

There are other issues in Ramayana according to them, like oppression of the backward classes, women etc. Encouraging the fact that the ruler is god, he should be worshiped and he shouldn’t be questioned[5].

This sort of distortion of truth to infuse our literature with Western concepts and rewrite them in a "secular" or "sanitized" way is not just limited to Ramayana. This is done on all works Indian and all things Sanatana Dharma. The Western scholars call this secularizing Indian literature.

They want to remove all the oppressive elements from our literature, clean it and then give us back a sanitized, secular version for public consumption. So, Siya Ke Ram is one of the secularized versions of Ramayana which is being fed to us.

If you notice, there is a subtle women’s right, tribal oppression, regressive rituals, diabolic thinking of ancient Indians that is highlighted in the serial.

For example, to show Sita as the champion example of a free thinking, independent woman there is this promo I saw recently which shows her capturing a Asvamedha horse from Ayodhya and being shown as THE example of a progressive woman, a rebel.

If you know even a bit of Valmiki Ramayana, you will know that Dasharata performed ONE Asvamedha before Rama was born, Sita wasn’t born before Rama. And therefore Sita couldn’t have captured the Asva (horse) from that Yajna ? Logic, right ? The story has been distorted to show Sita as a rebel and an independent woman.

The next one is about the story of Shanta (Dasharata & Kaushalya’s eldest daughter who was adopted by the King of Anga, Dasharata's very close friend and his wife, Kaushalya's elder sister). Siya Ke Ram shows that Dasharata abandons his daughter in quest for a “Male” child.  And he makes Shanta sacrifice her youth and beauty (I have put it very mildly here. I’m sure those who watched the serial know how they show it) to go to the forest with Rishyasringa. All this in exchange for getting Rishyasringa to do a Puthrakameshti Yajya to beget a “Male” child. So you give away a "Female" child and pray for a "Male" child, a prime example for gender bias and oppression of women.

There are other things highlighted by many like showing the demon “Other” as a tribal. This is to create tensions among the people of India to get brother hate brother[6].

In essence Siya Ke Ram is nothing but an attempt by the Hinduphobic to discredit our Sanskriti. So that our kids (and even us) who watch this serial think that our Puranas are nothing but oppressive stories and start hating our own past and move to the more secular options that the Western world will provide.   

That is the reason why I say, Siya Ke Ram is pure poison that is best avoided. If you really want to know more about Ramayana, indulge in the Ramanand Sagar version that we saw as kids when we were growing up. That is a far superior version that doesn’t contain the many distortions that the current version has.




[2] Read The Battle for Sanskrit (2016, Harper Collins India) by Sri Rajiv Malhotra to know much more
[3] Ibid
[4] Ibid
[5] Ibid

Explaining Seethaiyin Raman to a 6 year old

Saw a message from my cousin that his 6 year old daughter is confused between the Ramayana she was told by elders at home and what she watched on TV as Seethaiyin Raman (Siya Ke Ram in Hindi). My little niece wanted to understand the difference and also the reason behind it. The parent, my cousin wasn't very clear as to how he should explain the difference and he wasn't sure why there were differences in the first place.

So I embarked on a two step journey

  1. To explain the differences to my little niece the way she would understand. Something that would (close to) convince her young inquisitive mind and also be truthful. I also didn't want to go the US & THEM route that the usual Western interpretation of Indian history goes on as, so I wanted to very subtly highlight the difference and then let the kid take a call
  2. To explain why Seethaiyin Raman (Siya Ke Ram) is poisonous for anyone in the long run
In this post we will look at the first part where I explain Seethaiyin Raman to my 6 year old niece. The idea here is to get the parents, my cousin or his wife read this out for my niece so that she understands things better (so that the parents explain the difficult words for a 6 year old) like "Ancestors" etc..

BTW, you will come across two characters (which you might not be aware of... I mean, non Ramayana characters), they are 
  1. Karthik: My cousin who lives in Canada
  2. Amrita: My little niece, Karthik's 6 year old daughter
----The post for Amrita----

Ramayana is a Purana (Puranam in Tamil).


Puranam means old, a Purana means something that describes what happened in olden days, long long ago in a form you will understand, said like a story that even a little girl like you will love and understand.

How will you understand it better ?

If I write 200 pages and give it to you asking you to read it OR if it is told like a nice story ? Like a Hare & a Tortoise !!

Now, if something has happened long ago, like Ramayana how would you want to tell the story ?

Would you want to tell it as it was told by our ancestors (grandfather’s grandfather’s grandfather’s grandfather and so on…)

OR

Would you add your own story and tell it ?

For example, would it be good if you say…

Rama & Sita were getting ready to leave, to go to the forest. The whole of Ayodhya was sad, they were crying because their beloved Rama & Sita were going to go to the forest. Appa was watching Cricket on TV when Rama & Sita said goodbye and I was playing with my whiteboard, drawing pictures. And Rama & Sita were gone.

If I tell you that this is the correct Ramayana and put it on TV.

Would you believe it ?

Would it be nice to see a Ramayana with Karthik & Amrita as two characters there ?

So, you need to ask yourself a question.

Is Ramayana a story ?

If you ask me, I will tell you it is NOT.

It is something that happened long long ago.

In an age called Treta Yuga.

Heard about Ice Age (nice movie, right ?).

Like the Ice age they show in the movie, the age of the earth can be divided into 4 Yugas (this is for real !!). By the way, we live in the 4th part. This is called Kali Yuga.

The second part of the age of earth was Treta Yuga and that is when Rama lived.

Did you know ? The Treta Yuga part was more than a million years !!

Ramayana tells you what happened to Rama, how he lived and all that.

So Ramayana is actually like me reading a scrapbook you made during your summer vacation to understand how you enjoyed your vacation.  Cool, right ?

Now that you understand a bit of what Ramayana is. Let us see what Seethaiyin Raman is…

Seethaiyin Raman is like putting Appa, Amma, Amrita & everyone in Ramayana and making it a nice story that everyone would watch on TV.

You do many changes to the original Ramayana and make it a STORY, like the Hare & a Tortoise.
Not good, right ?

Ask Appa to show you the Ramayana they did in Hindi & showed in a TV channel called Doordarshan in India. This was shown when Appa was a small kid like you, may be smaller than you !!

That, Amrita will get you understand Ramayana a little better. And yes, it shows Ramayana without adding any extra stories.

God Bless !!

Sunday, March 27, 2016

An exchange with a Scholar...

Dear Sir,

Further to our short discussion about Sri Ganesh and his critique on The Battle For Sanskrit (TBFS) by Sri Rajiv Malhotra (RM), I read and reread his long critique. RM himself has mentioned in the book and also many times during his tour, he wants the discussion going and he also wants a substantive debate that focusses more on the subject and not a person. So Sri Ganesh’s joining the debate is a very welcome move. That said, I have observed certain things in his critique that make me think that all is not fair and Sri Ganesh might have some axe to grind against RM.

That said, I completely agree with you when you say that we need to set aside our differences and unite for the sake of the larger cause.  

“கல்லாதது கடல் அளவு”
What is to be learnt measures an ocean

Before I go further let me clarify that I am not THE expert on Sanatana Dharma or Sanskrit, I am just a student. But the beauty of our culture is that one doesn’t have to be THE expert to join a discussion, he can if he understands (just) what he is talking and more importantly if he is willing to learn.

What I have must be less than a teaspoon, leave alone a handful. So please pardon my enthusiasm and feel free to correct me. Now over to Sri Ganesh’s critique and my observations.

Further, he is also confused with some of the basic terms like sastra, kavya and veda. The irony is that Malhotra himself doesn’t know as much formal Sanskrit as the Indologists he is out to battle.

Here, Sri Ganesh implies that RM relies on second hand information when it comes to all things Sanskrit. From my lay perspective I don’t see a problem with RM and I will not get into justifications just yet. But let me point out that Sri Ganesh himself is found doing what he says RM is doing in this critique. He uses the book (TBFS) as a substitute (the source) for Prof Pollock’s writings and proceeds to criticize RM. 

Malhotra claims to merely perform purvapaksa, but in places where he unwittingly tries his hand at siddhanta, he falls short. In other places where the siddhanta is well-reasoned, it is entirely borrowed (from scholars like K S Kannan, Arvind Sharma, T S Satyanath, etc.) Perhaps bringing them on board as co-authors might have salvaged this work in terms of the quality of siddhanta (and also the diagnosis of the problem). However, Malhotra deserves credit for attempting a purvapaksa. And this is why The Battle for Sanskrit is a valuable work.

In the start of the book itself RM is clear that he is doing just the Purvapaksha and he would require a home team of EXPERTS in the language & tradition to take the subject to the next step. I am sure
Sri Ganesh is aware about the project to take the Purvapaksha of Prof Pollock’s work further, initiated by Dr K S Kannan (information about which I had mailed you 2 weeks ago). Having read the book, I don’t see RM prescribing anything. He repeats time and again that he is just raising the red flag for a more qualified home team to study them and take things forward and that his study is ONLY descriptive.

Sri Ganesh doesn’t stop there, he even prescribes what could have “salvaged” the quality of TBFS and also questions RM’s understanding of the problem. In the next line he contradicts himself to praise RM for attempting a Purvapaksha and calls TBFS a “valuable work”. He has probably taken the principle of carrot & stick a bit too seriously and demonstrated its use in a single paragraph.

Western scholars are familiar with dissent but they often lack a framework to reconcile with the differences and transcend them. While Malhotra respects this spirit, he is unable, unfortunately, to express it clearly in his book.

I thought is comes out clearly in the book, RM explains how the outsider seeks to find differences, amplify them, demonize and then try to secularize our texts using western theories. Among the many things discussed in TBFS, Prof Pollock’s litererization, Ramayana as a text of “othering” and his use of Walter Benjamin & his aesthetics of power, political & liberation philology stand out as things
Prof Pollock has done to run Sanskrit and Sanskriti down. And the advantage is that RM has explained it so simply that even I could understand.

That said, Malhotra’s analysis of European Orientalism and its latter variant, what he terms ‘American Orientalism’ is reasonably accurate.

What good is an analysis without explaining what European Orientalism & American Orientalism stand for ? If RM’s analysis is “reasonably accurate” then he surely has expressed something clearly in the book ? Because one can’t describe a portrait without taking into consideration the subject / object it deals with.

This viewing of India through the Western lens has given rise to several erroneous conclusions and Malhotra makes this point numerous times in his book (to the extent that he could have saved many pages had he chosen not to repeat himself).

Sri Ganesh seems to be more worried about saving paper than seeing the matter in it. A layman in me can see the different contexts that RM is addressing by repeating the issue of looking India through a western lens. For example the theories of aesthetization of power and liberation philology are two different lenses although the expected end result of using them might be the same, running down Sanskrit & Sanskriti. So you have lenses of multiple focal lengths that end doing the same damage that would sit in the big bag of western lenses. That is the reason why RM refers to the big bag when you describe a specific focal length.  

While his comparison of the two kinds of Orientalism is notable, he begins to falter when he compares the ‘Sanskrit Traditionalists’ and ‘American Orientalists.

I guess Sri Ganesh has got it wrong here, what RM refers to in his book is about two kinds of people, (1) Insider & (2) Outsider. I don’t think he terms the insider as a “Sanskrit traditionalist”, if RM describes so then the first person to fall out of this categorization would be he himself. In simple terms (paraphrasing RM in my own words) insider is anyone who understands & respects the Paramarthika & Vyavaharika realms of Sanskrit, in other words he acknowledges the Sanskriti. The outsider is one who secularizes the language by acknowledging only Vyavaharika and attributes motivesto it & calls Paramarthika as some mumbo-jumbo used for suppressing the lesser privileged.

Further, he seems to be ignorant of the voluminous writings of D D Kosambi, Debiprasad Chattopadhyaya, R S Sharma, and Rahul Sankrityayan, who opposed Sanskrit and/or Sanskriti long before this supposed American collusion (and even when he mentions Kosambi and Sharma, it is in passing).

This sounds more like, because the author didn’t quote A or B or C enough times I expected, I call him ignorant. Sri Ganesh seems to be missing the point here, all those authors he has mentioned would fit into the “Outsider” category RM describes although they are Insiders from a geographical sense. For instance Marxism as far as we all know is a western concept. So a different focal length but the same western lens.

…but this cannot, sadly, absolve Malhotra of his blatant disregard to the past masters (in spite of his ostentatious dedication line to “our purva-paksha and uttara-paksha debating tradition…”) Not stopping at ignoring the remarkable scholars of the past and present, in several places in his book, Malhotra directly accuses Indian scholars of either being unwillingly complicit with the enemies (p. 68), or being irresponsible (p. 15), or being uninterested (p. 44), or being unaware of Western scholarship (p. 1). He lacks empathy for the numerous scholars who are deeply involved in their own research – be it a specific aspect of Sanskrit grammar, or the accurate dating of an ancient scholar, or preparing a critical edition of a traditional text. And to top it all, Malhotra writes in several places that he is the first person to undertake such a task (see pp. 27, 44, or 379, for example), which as we know is false.

There are many things Sri Ganesh accuses RM of starting with a blatant disregard for the past masters which for me is a bit frivolous and very similar to what I have said before. The reader / reviewer giving a long list of illustrious Indian scholars and saying that the author by not naming each one of them in A BOOK of his is a grave mistake, to an extent that it discredits his work completely. Most of the people mentioned in the list have been mentioned by RM in some work of his or the other.

The other important thing is a generalization that he does to tar RM, that he accuses all Indian scholars. On this I remember I video of the book launch in the Karnataka Sanskrit University (if my memory serves right), he asks the audience, a group of scholars and students of Sanskrit as to how many of them have done some Purvapaksha of any western work. Two people raise their hands reluctantly and the fact that RM found that they too hadn’t done substantive Purvapaksha is another matter. So RM is not saying nobody has done anything, but is clearly saying that one review here and an unpublished work there don’t qualify as a Purvapaksha. Unless they jump into the Kurukshetra and take the bull by its horn, it would be a drop of water in the western Indological ocean.  That said, is RM the FIRST is a question left to RM to answer.

For me the question is not about first or second, to quote my favorite Rajinikant dialogue…

“லேட்டா வந்தாலும் லேட்டஸ்டா வருவேன்”

In an important discourse it doesnt matter who came first or last, what matters is the contribution. For me that is exactly what RM has done.
While it is the saving grace of the book, it is also an indicator of Malhotra’s obsession with Western academia, to the extent that the reader gets the impression that Hinduism will not survive unless Western academia views it in a better light.

Another point Sri Ganesh completely misunderstands about RM.

Yesterday (26.03) on twitter, I read this passionate RM supporter who was trying to talk about the contribution of India to grammar, science etc. A famous troll (I don’t want to name and give credit) tells him that he cannot do that in a peer reviewed academic paper without citing Prof Pollock as one of his sources. That is what we are faced up with. The west will tell you that India henceforth will be called South Asia, and define our religion based on their thinking, our guys will go get educated there, come back and crow what they were taught by their western masters and their theories. There are ample examples of these sepoys if we look around (who hold forte on all things Hindu in MSM).

And finally in his concluding remarks, Sri Ganesh says this…

The battle for Sanskrit and Sanskriti is not a new one. San?tana dharma has survived years of onslaught from many quarters in many guises. But this doesn’t mean that we should ignore the current threats. Malhotra has given a new shape to the debate and because of his influence, this message has spread widely. As he himself writes, it is hoped that more Indian scholars will get on board and provide fitting responses to Malhotra’s red flagging of problematic areas in Pollock’s discourse.

While acknowledging RM’s contribution through TBFS grudgingly, he also gives out another very important thing about the purpose of the book, to  get more Indian scholars to get into the home team and provide fitting responses based on the red flags RM has raised.

If someone got this, then he is cognizant of the red flags and of course the merit of RM raising them.
If that is acknowledged then what is the point ? Let us all join RM, Dr KS Kannan’s Purvapaksha project and work towards a common goal instead of trying to prove whose ego is bigger.

There is one more thing I wish to mention from Sri Ganesh’s critique before I close.

Sanskrit words are non-translatable (pp. 22, 32, 101)

Never in the book or beyond RM has said that Sanskrit words are non-translatable. He has clearly mentioned a few of those words that have a deeper meaning & sound and can’t be translated in “one word”. So it is not Sanskrit that can’t be translated it is certain words that can’t be. That too, is limited to “one word” translations. What RM implies here is that those words should be EXPLAINED to get the actual meaning out and hence while using them it is better to use the Sanskrit original as a transliteration rather than translating them and explaining them separately. An example that RM  frequently quotes is “Aatma” which is commonly translated as “Soul” which actually is wrong.

From what I understand from Sri Rajiv Malhotra (through this e-group interactions) is that he has always been open to working with Sri Ganesh and there is always a road block on the other side. As you will agree we need two hands to clap and just one to slap. Sri Rajiv has been extending that hand waiting for the other to join him in clapping, let us all hope Sri Ganesh joins in soon.

regards>raja

PS: I hope there is a nice intellectual discourse between the two scholars to iron all differences out and we get to see them coming together soon. And yes, these personal attack from both sides should stop immediately. Sri Rajiv Malhotra has repeated it time and again in his group and I am sure people will heed to this request of his.

PPS: Has this critique been stitched up  by many people who probably read one chapter each and then copy edited by one person ?


PPPS: When I finished reading The Battle For Sanskrit last week little did I expected that I would write this as a rejoinder to someone who should actually be part of the home team. All I thought about at that point in time was a small 2 page review of the book.

Friday, February 05, 2016

The aftermath of my Ambrose post...

After my post yesterday, the friend came up with two interesting points to illustrate why my approach might be wrong. While his points are very interesting and might sound as logical as my earlier post on paper, I had to respectfully disagree and I just did that.

So this post gives you an account of the points he raised and my response to him. At this point I really want to thank the two people for making this interesting engagement possible, my friend and his friend whom I guess I can call "my friend" henceforth. Thanks to them, I have my second post in 24 hours after a break of almost an year.

 I love the allure of statistics, ratios and averages. End of the day. its about wickets and runs. I mean Kohli has an average of 40 and 50 in tests and ODIs and so does Dhoni. it does not make MSD as good a batsman is VK? Or maybe he is.


Cricket as a game is loaded against the bowlers. Everything favours the batsmen, the bowler is only remembered for his worst performance (unless and until he’s part of the list we discussed in the previous post). Case in point is Chetan Sharma who is still remembered for that last ball he bowled to Miandad. Nobody even bothers to talk about his world cup hattrick against the Kiwi’s in 1987.

Now, coming to your comparing batting averages against the numbers I put up in my previous post…

They are chalk & cheese. You can’t compare the bowling strike rate with the batting average. Why strike rate, you can’t even compare the bowling average with the batting average.

Batting average is a straight division of the RUNS MADE by INNINGS TAKEN leaving out the innings one was UNBEATEN (Not Out). Note: There is a Not Out consideration

Bowling average is about the runs conceded per wicket

Bowling strike rate is about the balls bowled before a wicket was taken

You don’t have a measure to directly compare the two averages.

If I made one up, it would be something like this..

Ambrose played 179 innings for his 405 wickets. The average would be 405/179 = 2.26. Meaning he took something like 2 wickets per innings (Murali will have 3.5 with his 800 wickets in 230 innings). 

But this is still not comparable, because there isn’t anything that would come close to a Not Out in bowling. And they are two completely different trades although in the same game, Bowling and Batting.

There is a Batting Strike Rate which measures the number of runs scored per 100 balls.

Let us look at Ambrose again, he faced 3080 balls for his 1439 runs. So his strike rate is 1439/3080 (*100) = 46.72

VVS Laxman faced 17,785 balls for his 8781 runs with a strike rate of 49.37.

So can we say Laxman = Ambrose ? You will call me names J

Because for a batsman you need to look at the average in the long haul. You can compare a Kohli & Dhoni with the averages. That would be a Quantitative take, purely based on runs scored and innings taken. If you compare their batsmanship on technique and flair, that would be a Qualitative take.

And yes, for a Quantitative take you need to define your minimum requirement. For example you cannot compare a player A who has only played 15 innings with a player B who had played 125 innings. That is why in many cases cricket statisticians define a min comparison requirement in terms of the number matches played.

Now getting back to our topic, bowling. The analysis I provided only gives you a prediction, a forecast had Ambrose played a bit more, bowled a bit more. According to the stats, I concluded that he might have taken more wickets and broken into the top 3 wicket takers had he played more, bowled more. But we all know he didn’t.

So in this case, what I wrote as my concluding para (two paras) is what matters (BTW, I struck down the uncomfortable truth in the game of cricket).

“For the time he has spent on the field, he has done extraordinarily well. Just that we are trained / conditioned to look at the wrong piece of stat to decide who / what a best bowler is


Hence Ambrose is surely among the best of bowlers Cricket world has seen, irrespective of 400 or 800.”

So is it in soccer, it is about goals. hence Messi + Ronaldo will always be the highest rated. of course this year, Lewandowski might have a chance at it. 
In Tennis, you have no choice but to see tournament wins. 
In Athletics; Gold medals, not even Silver. How cruel. Who cares if Usain Bolt is last of the blocks. Or if he pulls up before the tape. 
My boss would want to know if i made plan. Nothing to do with productivity, averages etc etc etc.

Every game has its different way of looking at player performance. I would say the soccer stats are very cruel too. They are only forward / midfield friendly. What happens to a defender or a non goal scorer ? How do you evaluate him ?

Again, you cannot bring athletics or any individual sport / single player game in here. Because in those cases performance evaluation is simple, like you say about Usain Bolt. It is black or white. So you don't need the crutch of a piece of stat to measure effectiveness.

For me, the three (all round) stat friendly team games (from a player performance evaluation perspective) are basketball (NBA), Baseball (MLB) and Ice-hockey (NHL).

So in summary, two very interesting points raised by this friend

Comparing the bowling statistics to batting: My answer is simple, we cannot directly compare a piece of bowling stat with that of batting. Plus what I did in my previous post is not to prove that Ambrose would definitely have taken 800 wickets or more.

It was an attempt to see if he might have had be played more. Given what his performance is, the stats say that he might have. We know he didn't.

But the main point is that the fact that he didn't doesn't in anyway eclipse the fact that he is a top class bowler.

And two,

You cannot compare individual sports with individual sports. Or for that matter compare a game A to B in terms of the stats you churn out, for certain indicators might not be in vogue or even available for the sport in question. 

Stats: Thanks to Cricinfo

Thursday, February 04, 2016

Could Curtly Ambrose have ended up with 800 test wickets ?

After hibernating for long, I decided I should do a post on this one.

To give a background, a good friend posts a video of Curtly Ambrose running through the Australians 23 years ago. A friend of that friend posts a nice piece of stat showing the top wicket takers in the world and bemoans the fact as to why Ambrose is not among the highest wicket takers in the world. In the post below, I try to reason why his anguish might be a little misplaced.

To get things going, that is the link for the video and see below for the nice piece of stat this friend of my friend had posted.


And now, what do I think about Ambrose the bowler ?

Top bowler in cricket is a warped term. We see top from the perspective of the number of wickets taken.

If you go by that, yes Ambrose ended up with 405 wickets.

Let me show you how he compares with Muralidaran

Number of Matches: Ambrose (A) = 98 Murali (M) = 133

Number of innings: A = 179 M = 230

Wickets taken: A = 405 M = 800

Strike rate (balls taken per wicket): A = 54.5 M = 55

Number of balls bowled: A = 22,103 M = 44,039

What can we see from there ?
  1. Murali has played 35 more matches than Ambrose (51 innings more)
  2. Murali has taken twice the number of wickets (almost)
  3. The two bowlers have taken more or less the same number of balls per wicket
  4. Murali has bowled almost twice the number of balls Ambrose bowled

Keeping in mind the fact that their strike rate is almost the same, we should note the following
  • Ambrose played less number of matches / innings compared to Murali
  • But the clincher, Murali had twice the opportunity Ambrose had to get his 800

Now, there could be other counter arguments like
  • Murali took 5 wickets an innings 3 times more than Ambrose (A = 22 M = 67)
  •  Murali took 10 wickets per match 7 times more than Ambrose (A = 3 M = 22)

According to me there are three (actually two) types of bowlers (and their ways of getting test wickets)
  1. An assiduous one who keeps working for his wickets
  2. A gifted one who strikes at will (Dale Steyn for example)
  3. A combination of both

Most of the bowlers belong to the first category, where if you wanted to use a cricket cliché, they hunted in pairs. Murali was a combination, may be mainly because he didn’t have anyone to combine with for most part of his career.

The problem while hunting in pairs is that you are sharing the workload and hence the fruit too. If you compare for example Walsh with Ambrose (and discount the fact that Walsh played more tests compared to Ambrose) you will see that both have produced very similar results. The important fact there is that Ambrose has a better strike rate or wicket taking ability among the two. But he has still ended up with lesser wickets compared to Walsh (519) thanks to the fact that he played lesser games than him (Walsh = 132, Innings = 242).

The fact that most of the bowlers in the list  of top wicket takers are fast bowlers again plays a huge role in the workload per match / innings (in other words the number of overs they bowled).

So considering the fact that Ambrose was a genuine fast bowler let us discount the comparison on the number of overs bowled vis-à-vis Murali. He couldn’t have bowled that many overs.

Then we can conclude that had Ambrose played a bit more (even to the extent Walsh did), he would have surely broken into the Top 5 if not the 3.

For the time he has spent on the field, he has done extraordinarily well. Just that we are trained / conditioned to look at the wrong piece of stat to decide who / what a best bowler is

Hence Ambrose is surely among the best of bowlers Cricket world has seen, irrespective of 400 or 800.

Stats: Courtesy Cricinfo 

Saturday, March 07, 2015

Letter to a dear friend...

Dear Prof.,

Greetings !!

I beg to differ on lot of things you had said in our whatsapp conversation. In fact, I will use a stronger word, that I DISAGREE on the things you say. Let us go point by point to see why.

a.      That map isn’t the true picture of India: Why do I think so ? Rape or atrocities on women is not unique to India. I am not going to give you statistics and start a discourse about “rape per capita” of India vis-à-vis western countries. When SIR Jimmy Saville, the great BBC presenter was mired in child sex abuse cases no one in England painted a map of it with crying children. Rape is horrific and to condone this pop culture of painting a whole country’ map with that and to say that that is the true picture of our country is just SAD (yes, in caps)

b.      Are we now a sick society ? NO (again in caps): Please do remember that this society which you call sick is the one that houses people like your father, brother, husband, friends like me and many more who don’t believe in and are strongly against the abuse of women. We all make this society, so to call it sick is calling all of us sick. Painting all of us black in one stroke is just NOT RIGHT (again in caps). But yes, there are some sick people in our society like in any other society. Like another famous English man and glam rock singer Gary Glitter. Another English pedophile, do people like him make England a sick society ?

c.      You say you need that documentary to make people aware of such things: Didn’t we not have press coverage of the incident itself ? Didn’t we have many debates about how to change the mindset then ? And how do you think that a BBC documentary that is mainly for western consumption, to show us as savages that was also going to be telecast in an Indian English news TV that is #2 or #3 among English news TV will make people aware ? Who are the people you are referring to ? People like you and me ? But we already know and are aware of this thing. I don’t have girls, yes. But I do speak to my boys about respecting fellow human beings irrespective of caste, creed, colour, sex or occupation. So I don’t need to be educated about such things and I think you don’t have that need too. Do you think this documentary will reach those who need to be reached ? I don’t think the motive was to educate or make OUR (caps again) people aware of such things. Did BBC make a documentary of Saville, Glitter or the famous VIP pedophile ring with the intention of informing, educating and make the British society aware of the evils it was facing ? NO (caps again !!) The motive here is to show us as a sick society of savages who run around raping and abusing women. And that my dear friend is just not on

This documentary is sick, perverse and paints all of us Indian men with the same brush as rapists and abusers of women. My mother, sister, wife and many of my good friends including you are women. I respect each one of them for what they are and would continue to. Not only that, I will also educate my boys to continue this tradition of respecting the people who bring us to life, our women. And I don’t need BBC to preach me about respecting women. Let them go do it in their country, talk about the many pedophiles, rapists and savages they have.

And these so called “liberals”, the sepoys of the west among us who promote such discourse that shows our great country in poor light ? God bless them.

You, Professor play an important role shaping the future of this country. So please tell the future generation how great a country we are and how we should be. Educate the future about these lumpen elements in our midst and how to quell them from our society. But please don’t be party to this, “We are a sick society” discourse. It is just disrespecting your father, brother, husband & your friends like me and many more. We don’t want a generation that hates men or views all of them with suspicion.

Bharat MATA Ki Jai !!

regards>raja

Friday, June 27, 2014

10, what a small number...

10 was a small number till a while back, my sons knew that from times I don’t remember.

If you want to test me about “Times”

I know all the important details…

Their names, as they are spelt in official papers with the exception of a stray “d”, “h”, “t” & “a”

Their dates of birth, to the year plus or minus 2

And believe me, even the class they are in, at least 2 in 12 times

Ok, coming back to the story… 3,650 days, many things have happened in the interim

A big move, geographically

A bigger move, the birth of a son

Even bigger, setting up a young family at a distant land unknown

And bigger, getting a school admission for the son

More, when the second son was born

Much more, when he got to the same school as his elder brother

And yes, the biggest of all…

Something that was the BIG, great start of these small big things above

The day when RoopaK took up a great challenge, the greatest of her life till

Anirudhha & Anantaa got together

Yes, it is 10 years since she committed the blunder of her life

I have no shame in admitting that I am Mr RoopaK and it is 10 years since that name change of mine happened

Thank you RoopaK for the wonderful and most adventurous 10 years we have had…

I am sure I haven’t lived up to your standards and I am not sure I ever will

Sweets, here’s to many more…

Thursday, April 07, 2011

Ladies & Gentlemen who were vocal about a certain maoist supporter...

The Chennai, Tamil Nadu that was vocal about civil rights when a certain Binayak Sen was imprisoned is sleeping now...

For the nation has started talking about corruption, the favorite past time of our favorite politicians in our state and we care a damn about it (we have historically, chosen the lesser evil)... As much as income tax is a certain % of our annual income, so is the allocation towards the "tea expenses" of the public servants, we have become "the barbie's in their hands" (Kai Paavai, as they say in Tamil)...

Tamil Nadu, let us wake-up...

There is life more than watching a Vadivelu campaign for a certain party slandering the other... And the lady who says her opponents family is corrupt is no saint either... Leave alone those who don't know what power is in Tamil Nadu for more than even Google could remember...

It is time for us to say "Kollai Addichuttanga, OK... Meesala Maan Ottrathukku Munnala Muzhichukitten !!" (They plundered, it's okay... I woke up before they stripped me nude !!)

Sunday, March 20, 2011

The feeling of saying a goodbye...

As “The Corrs” song, “Goodbye” blasted through my little big car stereo I was driving out of MEC, Dubai’s parking. As I waved off to one of MEC parking’s many friendly neighbourhood Pakistani security guards, I was feeling different. Very different from the last time I did this, apart from the fact that it was Jethro Tull who was with me as I waved off and it was 8p, there was a major difference.

I had a joblist ready for the next day in office and I had told Ashwini, Agnello & Raju that I would meet them on Sunday.

Today was my last day at office, I had already given away the access card and the parking permit which were like Karna’s armour for me. Mathew had already read the list of my end of service benefits, how they added up to that handsome sum and when he would deposit that crossed cheque into my loan laden ADCB account.

Mani had sent me the two cardboard boxes, slightly bigger than 5 year old Anirudhha’s pencil box to which I loaded my belongings. After a hearty lunch with my team, a cake cutting and a ceremonial opening of my parting gifts, I was ready to go. End of sentence.

As I waited at the exit of the lane next to the office, to join the main stream Media City I was feeling heady, gasping for breath. I felt like one of those Zardari’s non state actors. Not what they exactly were, but someone who didn’t have a state or as someone who just lost his state, his identity.

I had just renounced my rights at MEC / mc2. I wondered who I was, of course when Sidhartha renounced he was Buddha and me ?

Four years of relationship, new office, pitches won & lost, fights, appraisals, less bonus, low increments, four birthday cakes, one more son in the family, it was a fairytale journey. If there were rollercoasters in fairytales that is exactly the journey I’m talking about.

I don’t have a joblist for tomorrow, I can wake up anytime I want. I can wear my favorite jeans, T-shirt and sneakers, watch television, even have a drink at 11a in the morning. But it wouldn’t be fun, it wouldn’t match the moment every morning when I picked my phone up and said, “Ya, Andy tell me…”

Miss you MEC / mc2

More than anything, I’ll miss you Andy… God bless you for all those good things you have done to me !!

Thursday, July 01, 2010

Vin Sinners: Howz that ?

VIN SINNERS, I am proud I know this guy.

Listen to the first track “Something to believe in” and you will know why.

Some truly original music, mind blowing stuff …

My untrained ears can hear strains of Mark Knopfler in the first track (who actually rocks like he never has !!).

The second (Book of faces) is something that gets me reminisce "Indus Creed" the foremost of the popular Indian bands to reach out to the public. The track for me sounded a bit of an “Indian Rock” the mandatory you see in the Bollywood movies these days.

“The wise man” compensates if at all are disappointed with the “Book of faces” like I have. It would actually be a wise bet listening to this track before one proceeds to the “Book of faces”. This one is a truly rocking track. Here, I can hear James Hetfield & a Bruce Dickinson and more.

The next track is an alternative version. And frankly the untrained me doesn’t understand what an alternative version means.

Overall, as you are driving in your car am sure this is an album which would make your way back home lively and the one that would get you charged-up as you are one your way to work.

In total an album I would want to have in my car.

PS: I haven’t talked about the lyrics as yet as we only have one song in full “Something to believe in”, you get to read bits of it on the left side of the reverberation screen if you are like me, smarter people would realize how brilliant the lines are hearing !!

Saturday, May 01, 2010

Finally the hibernation is over...

At least on BCC! as of today...

Posted a blog on Bored in defense of Lalit Modi. I post my blog and move on to the Indian news TV websites and what do I see ?

I see a story about one of my favorites talking about the issue. Sharp tongued Bishen Bedi lashing it out on the whole BCCI & IPL establishement.

Going by what the acerbic Paaji has said in the interview, it looks like Angad wouldn't be back for the next IPL season.

Keep talking sir !! We love you talking

Monday, September 21, 2009

WADA: The holy cows & little lambs

The debate rages on, the latest to join the issue is Shashank Manohar, chief of the BCCI. While he has not said anything about what BCCI’s answer would be to the Sports Ministry, he has said they would discuss about the issue with ICC.

May be he could have made the lives of the journo's simple had he said, “Let me discuss that with Sharad Pawar and come back”

Going back to the January of 2009, it was the ICC which had approved and implemented the WADA regulations. I am not sure if a single official at ICC could take a unilateral decision to sign the regulations. For, the ICC is supposedly a council. Hence it wouldn't be wrong if one assumed that the decisions must be consensual.

The Indian board and all the other “little lambs” that are following the BCCI today had time till July ’09 to think about WADA. To read, re-read, evaluate & re-evaluate the merits and demerits. The BCCI woke up after August 01, 2009, that was when the “Whereabouts” clause was to be implemented. That too after a couple of holy cows moo-ed.

The worst thing is that NADA, the National Anti-doping Agency of India has been writing to BCCI to know what their response / opinion / view on doping and WADA regulations are, but the BCCI has not been responding.

BCCI’s holier than thou behaviour could be justified by saying that they are not answerable to the government or any governmental agency, they are a private co-operative society after all. But when it comes to upholding the integrity of the game, when it comes to guarding the spirit of sportsmanship the BCCI should have answered.

Add this to the BCCI’s rhetoric of starting their own dope control agency which I am sure has not even seen a pen and paper, it makes one whine. I am sure the BCCI can get away with murder in India, because they are not dependent on the government and they are cash rich but the other “little lambs” that want to follow this Mary today would have to herd back to their respective farms once their governments wink on this issue.

So it wouldn’t be long before the BCCI is left orphaned with an immoral cause.

Saturday, September 19, 2009

Should WADA have spoken to the Government of India about cricket ?

This is the latest of the series of million dollar questions about WADA. There have been a million of these questions in the last couple of months. This one assumes some importance as there have not been any WADA questions for a while now. And some of us know the fact that the BCCI is a private co-operative society and not a government controlled sports body.

So why should WADA speak to the government, when the GoI doesn’t control the BCCI ?

Don't they know BCCI is not controlled by the Indian government ?

What will WADA achieve by speaking to the GoI about cricket ?

Is WADA bureaucratic in its ways ?

Two reasons why WADA could have spoken to the government

1. To assess the kind of interest the Government of India has in getting rid of doping from sports. There have been far too many voices against the “Whereabouts” clause, but most notably there was one voice of support, that of the Union minister of Sports, MS Gill.

We still don't know if it were his private opinion or the governments. There has not been a declared GoI position on the whole issue. So may be WADA wanted an official word on their position

2. The most important reason, if cricket gets to the Olympics then it would be the GoI & IOC who would be responsible for the Indian cricket team.

So what happens to the BCCI and its selection panel ?

The BCCI would select and recommend a team to the IOC and then the IOC & the GoI would get them to the Olympics.

So whenever that happens, the cricketers too must conform to the Olympic spirit and standards

Therefore what WADA have done is not at all surprising. They have done the right thing in speaking to the Sports Ministry who in turn control the local anti-doping agency NADA in India.

So if there is any such thing called an Indian dope control standard, it has to be the NADA which would govern it till the BCCI decides to give life and unleash the paper tiger of having its own dope control agency.

Let us not forget a key fact, WADA is just an enabler...

A key to shut the arena of sports away from the menace called doping. To offer a level playing field for the sportsmen & women around the world. The moment they become bureaucratic in their ways, the whole reason of their existance would be comprimised. As a responsible body, I am sure WADA is aware of this fact and would make sure they never get there.

Friday, September 18, 2009

Recreation time…

The WADA story keeps floating up and down the sports headlines for the last couple of months. Most of the Indians and the cricketing community didn’t know the difference between this WADA and the one sandwiched between a Pav. Suddenly every Tom, Dick and Hari is speaking about it.

There are some people who subscribed to WADA initially who have now woken up rejuvenated once they heard that the Indian cricket board is against it. Agreed FIFA is in two minds but, most of the other game chiefs are in agreement that the arena of sports and sportspeople in particular should be clean.

The simple reason why...

Because they are role models for the youngsters, The Gen X, Y & Z

There was a report in the Guardian recently about this. Before dissecting the content of the report, let us remind the goodfellas at the Guardian that the Indian Premier League has still not spoken anything about the WADA regulations. Simply because of the reason that the IPL is regulated by the BCCI.

It was the BCCI and its cricketers who are against WADA.

According to this report the Professional Players Association which represents players, including those who play cricket (??) have spoken about two things.

1. The “Whereabouts” clause
2. Recreational drugs

In this post let us not talk about the “Whereabouts” clause.

Let’s see what the Professionals / Role models say about the recreational drugs.

“Don’t ban our players for a longer duration if they took recreational drugs”

Discipline – That is the most important trait a sportsperson / soldier should have. I have never known of a disciplined drug addict. Once a sportsperson decides to take recreational drugs, he / she is no more disciplined and therefore I wouldn’t want this person to be someone who influences my kids.

If these are recreational drugs that warrant such light punishments, then why do governments world over have a fleet of gadgets, dogs & people going after the so called recreational stuff ?

Why are they outlawed ?

Why are some South American governments hell bent on losing sleep and men fighting cartels ?

I wouldn’t want a drug addict’s poster on my son’s bedroom wall…

Would you ??

I wouldn’t want him ape an addict the way he walks, talks and plays…

Would you ???

However recreational the drugs that fella took might be

Thursday, September 10, 2009

Infusing life to 50 overs cricket...

The last week was hectic, everyone spoke. There was no action but speech, excluding Harbajan.

Every cricketer you could imagine spoke about the state of 50 overs cricket, except of course the gentlemen from the Westindies. They were debating about the survival of cricket - the game. They would continue to, till Floyd Riefer leads his grandchildren against Afghanistan in a world cup that would be hosted by Vanuatu some 25 or so years from now.

Cutting the long prelude short. Let us firstly, thank Sachin for the proposal.

Thinking about it The Twelfth man got the sparkly idea of the century, something that would revive the great game of ODI cricket. Something that would extricate the game from the beaks of a vulture called T20.

Let’s jump straight to the brilliant idea.

Each team would play 2 innings. Each inning would be of 25 overs

The batting team, before commencing its first inning would declare their set of 6 players who would bat. The innings would come to close at the fall of 5 wickets or 25 overs whichever occurs first.

The notout batsman along with the remaining 5 would bat in the second innings.

So each team would have a total of 10 wickets to lose in the match and one player who would be the notout batsman in the first innings of each team gets to bat in the second innings too.

Each innings would have two powerplays, of 5 overs each. The first 5 overs and another 5 overs which the bowling captain could enforce anytime during the 25 overs.

Now for the bowling…

The team bowling would select its 4 bowlers who would bowl in the innings. 3 would bowl 7 overs and the other 4 . The bowlers who bowled in the first inning can’t bowl in the second. This means each team would have 8 bowlers.

To make things a level playing field and give some advantage to the bowlers, we would allow 25 bouncers an innings. The teams can decide to bowl all 25 in the trot or leave it to its bowlers to decide when to bowl them. So the game becomes much more competitive and balanced.

This version would be much more balanced than a blind 25 overs each innings cricket. There again inequality would creep in, it would become the game of your best batsmen and the bowlers. So ideally you can have 5 batsmen, 5 bowlers and a wicketkeeper who can bat. That would drive you home.

In the format we are proposing, we cut all these shortcuts off.

ICC… BCCI and the other powers to be… Are you guys listening ??

Don’t forget to pay The Twelfth man his due before you steal this idea !!

Thank you Thambi… I had to time you out !!

Friday, September 04, 2009

WADA and cricket: What is happening now…

BCCI wants cricket’ own watchdog.

ICC wants to wait till WICA (the players association meets WADA).

And the media wants all the cricket boards to join the BCCI against the whereabouts clause, for they want some sensational news and some sustainable TRP’s.

Now that Mr Y S R Reddy is gone (pardon me for not considering the other passengers of that fatal flight… that how the Indian political and journalistic dharma works) and we have another very important news to talk about for the next 7 days. Post that we'll talk about Jagan Mohan as the next CM !! So thankfully WADA becomes a third class news...

Let me spell out the reason why I have been a vociferous advocate of the WADA and its regime…

It is an independent body, they know nothing but enforcement.

What does that mean ?

This means that someone can’t get off by simply replacing a “Monkey” with a "Maa Ki". It means that the Darwinian theory could be disproved, it wouldn’t be just about the survival of the fittest but about the abiding of the lot.

So if the ICC does, as BCCI has been wanting … Set up its own anti-drug unit, it could be (shall be) a farce.

It would then be selective, crucifying an X while exonerating a Y. A Nandrolone could become Nimbu Pani just like the metamorphosis of the monkey in Australia.

That is why you need a neutral body, some one who doesn’t know the difference between the intersection of the union of the bottom and the elbow of cricket politics.

For heavens sake, please realize that they (the cricketers) too are humans, and not some species else or the gods.

Let them also adhere to some rules and regulations. And that too for the noble cause of keeping sports clean.

More WADA talk: If you wanted to start from scratch or wanted more dope... Click here

PS: The only thing that is common between us and these demigods is the strip search at the US airports

Tuesday, August 18, 2009

A professor on Bored !!

They got a Khufia Baaz, Jatman, Che...

Then, they got an interview done with the communications director of WADA.

Now see who they have got ?

A professor who delights us with the way cricket was those days, or rather his days !!

Can't imagine what they would do tomorrow, these chaps at BCC!... Can you ?

Wednesday, August 12, 2009

WADA speaks to BCC!

WADA, the World Anti Doping Agency spoke to us at Bored. Too much dope about anti-dope across media and too many interpretations of what WADA & "Whereabouts" stand for, our objective was to clear the air up.

And that is precisely what Ms. Julie Masse, WADA's Communications Director did, speaking to yours truly